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To: Joann37
so simplifying -- Baptism for an infant means both parents must assent to this and at least one if not both must be confirmed Catholics (it's of course different for adults who do not need their parents to speak for them).

Confirmation means full entry into the Church as a knowing, acting member, without this, you are technically unaware of your duties etc. and you cannot get married in Church either.

The father may continue living in sin, but know he has no excuse that he was not aware of this, so hopefullly it leads to a change in him. We should pray for such folks

20 posted on 04/28/2011 8:55:47 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Sorry if my writing was incoherent to you. Please let me know what you did not understand.

But I don’t see what good confirmation does if the kid immediately goes right on with his sin! There is no modicum of repentance whatsoever - he overtly lived a life of sin, and is fine continuing to do so. The way you define confirmation is that it’s completion of an educational course - he supposedly now KNOWS of his ways, and that’s it - even an attempt at repentance is not required?

If that’s what Catholics teach today, I’m glad I left the faith. While the most liberal Protestant churches would probably agree with your rationale, I believe most Bible-believing churches would at least try to get the kids to marry in hopes of raising a child in a stable home. God even provides Joseph and Mary as an example!

I Cor 6:18 “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.”

The kids may actually not even know that God CLEARLY spells this out in His Word, and it is up to the church to tell them this! Going along with today’s societal sin is not the way the church should operate!


33 posted on 04/28/2011 9:15:15 AM PDT by Joann37
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