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To: SZonian; Lurker

How could there have been “a COMPLETE apostasy” [per mormon claims] if Christ stated that the gates of Hades would not prevail against His church and that where two or more gathered in His name, He would be there?

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The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

Peoples actions speak louder because they fail realized the state they are living in!

Apostasy of the Early Christian Church

changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant, Isa. 24:5
this people draw near me with their mouth, Isa. 29:13
darkness shall cover the earth, Isa. 60:2
a famine … of hearing the words of the Lord, Amos 8:11
his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, Matt. 13:25
saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many, Matt. 24:5
shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, Matt. 24:24
his disciples went back, and walked no more with him, John 6:66
shall grievous wolves enter in among you, Acts 20:29
there be divisions among you, 1 Cor. 11:18
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him, Gal. 1:6
who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey, Gal. 3:1
shall not come, except there come a falling away first, 2 Thes. 2:3
some having swerved have turned aside, 1 Tim. 1:6
giving heed to seducing spirits, 1 Tim. 4:1
all they which are in Asia be turned away from me, 2 Tim. 1:15
Who concerning the truth have erred, 2 Tim. 2:18
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power, 2 Tim. 3:5
turn away their ears from the truth … unto fables, 2 Tim. 4:4
profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, Titus 1:16
From whence come wars and fightings among you, James 4:1
false prophets also among the people, 2 Pet. 2:1
being led away with the error of the wicked, 2 Pet. 3:17
now are there many antichrists, 1 Jn. 2:18
many false prophets are gone out into the world, 1 Jn. 4:1
certain men crept in … denying the only Lord God, Jude 1:4
which say they are apostles, and are not, Rev. 2:2
thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, Rev. 3:16
to make war with the saints, Rev. 13:7
formation of that great and abominable church, 1 Ne. 13:26
the Gentiles … have stumbled, 2 Ne. 26:20
Gentiles … will be drunken with iniquity, 2 Ne. 27:1
transfigured the holy word of God, Morm. 8:33
strayed from mine ordinances, and have broken mine everlasting covenant, D&C 1:15
Satan … soweth the tares, D&C 86:3
darkness covereth the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people, D&C 112:23
they were all wrong; … their hearts are far from me, JS—H 1:19

See also Matt. 24:11; Rom. 11:21; 1 Cor. 1:11; 1 Cor. 3:3; Col. 2:22; 1 Tim. 1:19; Titus 1:10; 2 Pet. 2:22; 3 Jn. 1:9; Rev. 2:5; 1 Ne. 11:34.


227 posted on 04/28/2011 1:44:25 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
MORMON Apostacy:

Throwing their GOD under the bus, by CHOOSING to no longer OBEY the ETERNAL COVENANT found in D&C 132 of

POLYGAMY!


You people sure have your NERVE to claim OTHERS are wrong!

The FLDS folks are the TRUE mormons: not you spineless weasels slithering out of Salt Lake City!!!

228 posted on 04/28/2011 4:54:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Peoples actions speak louder because they fail realized the state they are living in!

What was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism that Joseph SWmith claimed to have learned?

229 posted on 04/28/2011 4:56:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
...strayed from mine ordinances, and have broken mine everlasting covenant... D&C 1:15

SO many CHANGES in the practice of Joseph Smith's MORMONism: NONE of them documented by "thus saith the LORD."

230 posted on 04/28/2011 4:58:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

Not protesting, I’m asking a question which it appears mormons fear to answer.

How could there have been a COMPLETE apostasy if Christ Himself said that the gates of Hades would not prevail against His church? When He said that where two or more gather in His name, He would be there? Did He lie when said those words?

How Resty? Was Jesus Christ a LIAR? Dance, wiggle, twist, squirm, etc. That’s all I see going on here.

Many of the scriptures are warnings, some identify those who failed, but none tell of a COMPLETE apostasy. Another failure in contextual reading.

I note that you used a couple of scriptures that mormons should pay more attention to...

shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, Matt. 24:24

shall grievous wolves enter in among you, Acts 20:29

false prophets also among the people, 2 Pet. 2:1

being led away with the error of the wicked, 2 Pet. 3:17

many false prophets are gone out into the world, 1 Jn. 4:1

certain men crept in … denying the only Lord God, Jude 1:4

which say they are apostles, and are not, Rev. 2:2

The LdS scriptures are corrupted already since they came from a FALSE prophet and are useless in your apologetic attempt.

P.S. “Lurker” is a real FReeper user name, unless you’re pinging Lurker to bring him/her into the conversation, I would suggest you stop pinging him/her.


231 posted on 04/28/2011 5:39:23 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: restornu

Proverbs 14:12

‘there is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death,’


232 posted on 04/28/2011 5:39:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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