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HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS ABOUT MORMONS?
Various | April 17, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 04/17/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: lewislynn; greyfoxx39
Fear of other religions? I think not. Concern for the eternal soul of those involved or exposed to a false religion would be more like it.

Here is what Mormons believe.

“Man is the child of God, formed in the divine image and endowed with divine attributes, and even as the infant son of an earthly father and mother is capable in due time of becoming a man, so the undeveloped offspring of celestial parentage is capable, by experience through ages and aeons, of evolving into a God.”

Here is what Satan told Eve.

Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The meme of “you will be as God” goes back to the beginning and the results are not good.

Why would a true follower of Christ not be concerned and get involved? Scriptures tell us that if we see someone who is at risk of losing their soul and don’t say something we are culpable.

22 posted on 04/17/2011 3:42:08 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: greyfoxx39; poindexter; cripplecreek
"God has."

So, I guess it should be left to God and the Mormons to decide then.

I agree with poindexter...the Mormons I've had the pleasure of knowing here in Idaho are some of the nicest, most giving people around. They worship God in their own way, which doesn't affect the way I worship God.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 04/17/2011 3:42:38 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? www.myspace.com/10poundtest)
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To: SouthDixie
I wonder what the transition was for a Mormon to go from a saint to a christian, was it dumbing down, or dumbing up?

dumbing down, or dumbing up....cashing in?

24 posted on 04/17/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: greyfoxx39

You really should read the Bible! Sounds to me Like Joseph F. Smith was just paraphrasing the bible:

Acts 17:28 ...For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

....possibly you don’t believe in the Bible?


25 posted on 04/17/2011 3:52:15 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: Pharmboy; greyfoxx39; teppe
I do not know much about the theological issues, but, in case you’re interested, I have worked with many Mormons in my career and found them to be wonderful people...professionally and personally. The number of individuals is around 10...FWIW.

(Hey, when you're auditioning to become a god, ya better be on your best behavior)

Tell us, what's your opinion of people-who-think-they-can- become-full-grown-gods generally anyway?

26 posted on 04/17/2011 3:57:08 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: greyfoxx39

I like Mormons. They are honest, hardworking people. Last I checked, this is America.....you know, freedom of religion. Perhaps you should roll on the floor, speak in tongues, and ask your lord why you are so special but the Mormons are not.


27 posted on 04/17/2011 3:58:15 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: greyfoxx39

I thought Lent was that time of year when the FReepers traditionally gave up Mormon bashing in favor of Catholic bashing.


28 posted on 04/17/2011 4:01:27 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: teppe
Do YOU believe in all fairness, that anyone who desires to can claim to be a mormon without going through all the requirements listed above? Doubtful, IMO.

So why, when your own leader has told mormons NOT have a "personal relationship with Jesus" would Christians be expected to bow to mormon demands? Are the FLDS equal in mormon belief to the Salt Lake mormons?

"Some ("holier-than- thou" students) begin to pray directly to Christ because of some special friendship they feel has been developed. In this conception a current and unwise book, which advocates gaining a special relationship with Jesus, contains this sentence - quote: "Because the Saviour is our mediator, our prayers go through Christ to the Father, and the Father answers our prayers through his son. " Unquote. This is plain sectarian nonsense. Our prayers are addressed to the Father, and to him only. They do not go through Christ...You have never heard the First Presidency or the Twelve...advocate this excessive zeal that calls for gaining a so called special and personal relationship with Christ...never, never at any time have they taught or endorsed the inordinate and intemperate zeal that encourages endless, sometimes day-long prayers, in order to gain a personal relationship with the Saviour...I wonder if it is not part of Lucifer's system to make people feel they are special friends of Jesus when in fact they are not following the normal and usual pattern of worship found in the true Church." (Bruce McConkie, Speech at BYU on March 2 1982).

29 posted on 04/17/2011 4:04:17 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: teppe; greyfoxx39; All
Acts 17:28 ...For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. ....possibly you don’t believe in the Bible?

Sorry...but you neglect the multi-verse thrust of not only the Bible to stretch your interpretation, but you also badly ignore even the Book of Mormon! [As is usual for Mormons]

Q. How do Mormons neglect their own Book of Mormon on this topic?

A. Several verses talk about "becoming" children of God (on earth -- not on Kolob)...Mosiah 5 and Mosiah 27, for example, plus others. [Tell us Teppe...go on...I dare you ... tell us...How do you "become" a son of God on earth when you've supposedly already been one somewhere else???

What? You don't know?

Now to the Bible: You, Teppe, and other Mormons also badly neglect both John 1:12-13 which also teaches we "become" children of God...and that the Pharisees were regarded by Jesus as being children of the devil (John 8:44-47).

Tell us Teppe...how could the Pharisees be simultaneous "offspring of God" and "children of the devil."

What? Don't know or won't answer? Won't be the first time a Mormon falls into silence on this one...I've yet to see a Mormon even attempt to answer this one...

Too many Lds are big on their one-verse "I gotchas" -- only to strangely fall silent in the face of overwhelming counter-evidence!

Also, the apostle Paul emphasized several times that our "children" status is one as "adopted" children -- not born as children. [Book of Romans; Ephesians, etc.]

Besides, Teppe, if you're a Mormon who believes in the pre-existence, that also means that you think your "elder brother" is Lucifer...you were just further down in the spirit-birth order.

ALL: I'd like to introduce you to Teppe...a guy who if he's a traditional Mormon thinks that Satan's his "elder bro."

So, tell ya, Teppe, are you a "traditional" Mormon on that Q???

30 posted on 04/17/2011 4:08:51 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: sportutegrl
I thought Lent was that time of year when the FReepers traditionally gave up Mormon bashing in favor of Catholic bashing.

That's sort of funny. Thanks.

31 posted on 04/17/2011 4:10:31 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I fell asleep during my air traffic controller interview and still got hired. Cool!)
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To: sportutegrl

Can YOU answer the question? Why should Christians bow to the mormon demands?


32 posted on 04/17/2011 4:13:16 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: sportutegrl; greyfoxx39
I thought Lent was that time of year when the FReepers traditionally gave up Mormon bashing in favor of Catholic bashing.

(Of course when you bash religious others as "bashers" -- that makes you one of the "bashers"...you mean you didn't give that up for Lent?)

33 posted on 04/17/2011 4:13:16 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

What, Oh wise one, IS the mormon stance on Holy Week, Lent, Good Friday? Will the Cross be seen in any of their services?


34 posted on 04/17/2011 4:16:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: BipolarBob

Thanks for getting that’s its meant as humor. Many won’t on this thread.


35 posted on 04/17/2011 4:17:59 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Colofornian

Is making fun of bashing itself bashing?


36 posted on 04/17/2011 4:19:22 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

Heh. The funny thing about those “Easter is a pagan holiday instituted by the cult of Rome gnash gnash” threads is that they seem to have a lot of nonTrinitarians who consider themselves Christain but who aren’t LDS. I wonder if there are more nonTrinitarians on FR who consider themselves Christians but who aren’t LDS or actual LDS.

Freegards


37 posted on 04/17/2011 4:20:09 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: greyfoxx39

Unlike Obama, I bow to no one but Our Lord. That First Commandment thingy really shuts the door on that.


38 posted on 04/17/2011 4:22:15 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Ransomed
I wonder if there are more nonTrinitarians on FR who consider themselves Christians but who aren’t LDS or actual LDS.

Are they claiming to be Christians? Are they polytheistic? Have their leaders spent 160 years bashing Christianity and Christians?

39 posted on 04/17/2011 4:23:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: sportutegrl; greyfoxx39
Is making fun of bashing itself bashing?

OK, you've defined one component of "bashing" here as "making fun of..." Some of the accusers of some FR posters claim their comments are being made at the expense of Mormons -- or IOW, "making fun of"...and they, like you, have accused these posters of being "bashers"...

Once you meet the definition...make fun of...accuse with a verb label...sorry, it's too late...you've engaged in self-refuting behavior...

You've essentially sent a message of "Thou shalt not bash, you basher,"...you say NOT unabashedly :)

40 posted on 04/17/2011 4:29:38 PM PDT by Colofornian
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