To: AppyPappy
“The church teaches people not to question the church.”
I do not know what world you live in cause we are taught to find our own answers. We are to do our own study and ask God ourselves if it is true. We have always been taught to get our own testimony.
Satan has his teachers try to convince you that Mormons are just blind followers.
Ben
197 posted on
04/11/2011 10:49:22 AM PDT by
K-Ben-K
To: K-Ben-K
“We are to do our own study and ask God ourselves if it is true.”
Hiya, K-Ben-K.
May I ask what it is that you are to ask God if true or not?
To: K-Ben-K
We are to do our own study and ask God ourselves if it is true. We have always been taught to get our own testimony. How does God manifest that it is true? Or is it a desire that the church be true trumping a desire for the truth?
200 posted on
04/11/2011 11:35:43 AM PDT by
Godzilla
(3-7-77)
To: K-Ben-K
"I do not know what world you live in cause we are taught to find our own answers. We are to do our own study and ask God ourselves if it is true. We have always been taught to get our own testimony."
Exactly.
Mormons are taught to abandon objective truth and rely entirely on subjective verification.
This clears the way to cast aspersion on the Bible as a source of unchangeable truth
and it opens the door to believe heresy in all its forms - all backed up by your feelings
that were "testified to."
Once you are off the ground of unchangeable truth, anything goes and appears truthful.
I wish better for you,
ampu
To: K-Ben-K
Satan has his teachers try to convince you that Mormons are just blind followers. Like THIS guy???
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say Thus Saith the Lord, to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by mens reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidencythe highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidencythe living prophet and the First Presidencyfollow them and be blessedreject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captainhow close do our lives harmonize with the Lords anointedthe living ProphetPresident of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
202 posted on
04/11/2011 12:38:18 PM PDT by
Elsie
To: K-Ben-K
Satan has his teachers try to convince you that Mormons are just blind followers. Or maybe THIS one???
Timeline... Subject...
0:59 "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16 "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02 "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57 "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."
203 posted on
04/11/2011 12:39:02 PM PDT by
Elsie
To: K-Ben-K
Satan has his teachers try to convince you that Mormons are just blind followers. DAMN that mean ol' SATAN!
Just LOOK what he slipped into the BIBLE!
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
ANYBODY???
Like this fine looking fellow???
It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
13. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
KJV 1 Corinthians 4:17
For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
KJV 1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
KJV 2 Timothy 1:13
Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
KJV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
14. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
204 posted on
04/11/2011 12:41:24 PM PDT by
Elsie
To: K-Ben-K; AppyPappy; Godzilla; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie
I do not know what world you live in cause we are taught to find our own answers. We are to do our own study and ask God ourselves if it is trueYeah, well, let's "translate" this into actual Mormon "policy."
Take abortion, for example. Mormons are encouraged not to have one. But 'tis many exceptions they allow for...incest...health of mom (not simply LIFE of Mom -- but HEALTH)...if the abortionist says it's "OK"...and if the Mormon god says it's OK.
So rather than just taking a carte blanche approach to baby dismemberment...and approach it absolutely as murder...Mormons take the hole-in-the-cheese approach...and if you happen to find a whole passageway thru the cheese, hey, it's "vacuum" out the baby time!
So, as K-Ben-K says, they are to continually reinvent the wheel on EVERY pregnancy. It's not approaching pregnancy with a 100% prohibition vs. killing their offspring...it's "let's take this pregnancy and that pregnancy on a contingency basis"...and if we pray about it...and the Mormon god says, "suction away," then "hey, we tear the baby apart limb by limb" and thank the Mormon god that he guides his church by "continuing revelation."
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