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To: NYer

My Greek Orthodox friend doesn’t have anything good to say about them. It’s hard to explain away the sack of Constantinople.


21 posted on 04/02/2011 2:51:07 PM PDT by balch3
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"It’s hard to explain away the sack of Constantinople."

Alright, mistakes were made.

25 posted on 04/02/2011 3:31:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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That’s because so many in the Greek Orthodox nurse contrived grievances to justify disunity. Read my post #24 and ask yourself:

Do the Catholics complain about the 60,000 men, women and children killed by the Greek Orthodox leading up to the 4th crusade? No, we recognize the fault lies only with the long departed.

Do the Catholics complain about the excommunication by the Greeks on the basis of the filioque and unleavened communion hosts? No, the Catholics instead have explained, to the unanimous satisfaction of Greek Bishops in the 14th century, that the filioque doesn’t mean what Photius alleged it meant; they’ve permitted local bishops to determine whether it should be stated; they apologized for their part in the mutual misunderstanding which led to the excommunication, and declared it invalid; they recognized the validity of Orthodox sacraments, and invited the Orthodox into communion with no preconditions (like accepting the pope), but the Orthodox responded only by renewing their condemnations and banning Catholics from their churches, and insisting that Catholic sacraments are invalid.

God bless the Russian Orthodox bishops who are trying to promote reconciliation among their Orthodox brethren! And God bless the 20 Orthodox denominations which have been received back into the Catholic Church! And I’ll even say God bless the Orthodox who are holding out to try to bring the Catholic Church to reign in some of the nonsense promulgated by child-raping faggots “in the spirit of Vatican II.”

But if your Greek Orthodox friend insists on relying on contrived historical grievances to continually make rhetorical war against the Catholic church, you might question whether he is on the side of God.


29 posted on 04/02/2011 3:44:48 PM PDT by dangus
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To: balch3
My Greek Orthodox friend doesn’t have anything good to say about them. It’s hard to explain away the sack of Constantinople.

Except that it would never have happened if the Byzantine Empire wasn't weak and loaded with grasping, duplicitous scoundrels for leaders.

Plus, after Manzikert, the eastern Romans were begging the west for help. If it hadn't come, the empire probably would have fallen a lot sooner than it finally did.
58 posted on 04/02/2011 10:04:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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