Posted on 03/31/2011 7:12:27 AM PDT by marshmallow
A committee of American Roman Catholic bishops announced Wednesday that a popular book about God by Sister Elizabeth A. Johnson, a theologian at Fordham University in New York, should not be used in Catholic schools and universities because it does not uphold church doctrine.
The book, Quest for the Living God: Mapping Frontiers in the Theology of God, examines different understandings of God through the experiences of the poor and oppressed, Holocaust victims, Hispanics, women and people of religions other than Catholicism. Among the chapter titles are God Acting Womanish and Accompanying God of Fiesta.
The bishops committee on doctrine said in a statement: The book does not take the faith of the Church as its starting point. Instead, the author employs standards from outside the faith to criticize and to revise in a radical fashion the conception of God revealed in Scripture and taught by the Magisterium, the churchs teaching authority according to the popes and bishops.
Sister Johnson did not return a phone call but said in a statement that while she welcomed criticism, the bishops had radically misinterpreted her book and never invited her to discuss it.
She said, The book itself endeavors to present new insights about God arising from people living out their Catholic faith in different cultures around the world. My hope is that any conversation that may be triggered by this statement will enrich that faith.
Sister Johnson is a prominent feminist theologian and a former president of the Catholic Theological Society of America and the American Theological Society, an ecumenical organization. She belongs to a religious order in New York, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Brentwood.
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verdugo:
Well done.
Give me your postal mailing address and I'll send you some free passes to etiquette and genteel communications classes.
Orestes Brownson 1874: "There can be no more fatal mistake than to soften, liberalize or latitudinize this terrible dogma, "Out of the Church there is no salvation... If we wish to convert Protestants and infidels we must preach in all its rigor the naked dogma. Give them the smallest peg or what appears so, not to you, but to them;--- the smallest peg on which to hang a hope of salvation without being in or actually reconciled to the Church by the sacrament of Penance, and all the arguments you can address to them to prove the necessity of being in the Church in order to be saved will have no more effect on them than rain on a duck's back."
verdugo:
Well done in the context of the article and some of the responses. Not looking to get into what is the definition of EENS in this thread with you.
Regardless, even you must commend the U.S. Bishops Conference for criticizing Prof. Johnson’s “book and views” [not her person] and lets hope she recants and revises her book.
Yeah, we can all see her doing that, right. Radical Catholic Feminists are always looking to be corrected and willing to accept the opposition view.
I'm sorry my post was removed. Seems pretty clear to me how you think... and it deserved my response. I make no apologies for your abuse report. Remain in your much-beloved ignorance, if you choose. I'm done with your inane postings. Good day.
It wa a joke. Black Elk and I go back a long way. We use to double date.
fish hawk:
You never know, there was a Catholic feminist who was involved in a “fake ordination” and she publicly recanted after being excommunicated. Now, I don’t think what Prof. Johnson did warrants excommunication, but “censure” was the correct measure by the Bishops. At some point, if she continues down this path, then her credentials as a Catholic Theologian should be taken away, similar to Fr. Curran back in the 80’s here in the States and Fr. Kung in Europe.
Well thanks for those splendid observations.
You're happy that Rome is "fragmented" and I'm happy that it's less fragmented than yesterday, thanks to the bishops' decision.
Win-win.
You may wish to get your facts straight before posting. First, I did not make an abuse report. You will have to look elsewhere as to how and why the Mod found your remarks. Second, you are repeating the problem that perhaps led to the prior removal. "Seems pretty clear how you think" and "...your much-beloved..." are statements of how I think. Please reconsider these comments. Third, you may certainly wish to be done with my remarks, however. That is entirely up to you.
You're happy that Rome is "fragmented" and I'm happy that it's less fragmented than yesterday, thanks to the bishops' decision."
You have no idea what makes me "happy", my FRiend. I simply said we are watching. Be cautious of claiming to know how I think. That is outside of the posting rules.
Well then, my most profound apologies for suggesting you might be happy......... :-)
What was I thinking?
And happy or unhappy, keep up the Catholic watchin'.
marshmallow:
Wow, “we are watching.” Is there some sort of “Calvinist KGB” [I am only asking a question]. If so, were they predestined to do so or is this one of those areas were Freewill sort of gets into the picture?
Well, regardless, as you said marshallow, glad they are watchin. Makes me sleep better at not that the “double predestined TULIP elect” are watching over us and keeping us on our toes.
"All superstition is cruel." -- John Calvin
Perhaps John would lend this quote to the nun for her next book.
I presume this means she is giving another boring Marxist Feminist critique of tradition.
Believe me, I've worked with the ordinary folks who these elites look down on, from Okies to Africans, and they don't see their religion thru the eyes of feminist marxist nuns unless they're college graduates who learned to think that way by nuns or priests like this one.
Indeed, I've been given "meditations" on the "poor" that were so absurd that one wondered if these people thought poor people were their pets...
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