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Cristiada (Trailer for Upcoming Movie W. Andy Garcia, Peter O'Toole on 1920s Persecution in Mexico)
YouTube ^ | 03/30/2011 | n/a

Posted on 03/30/2011 6:26:10 PM PDT by Pyro7480

"A chronicle of the Cristeros War (1926-1929), which was touched off by a rebellion against the Mexican government's attempt to secularize the country. The film follows the stories of ordinary people from across the country who choose to stand up for their freedom. Caught up in a full-fledged civil war, they all must decide how far they are willing to go and what they're willing to risk."


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; cristero; cristiada; mexico; movies
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Movie website: Cristiada

Starring:
Andy Garcia
Eva Longoria
Peter O'Toole
Eduardo Verastegui of Bella fame
Nestor Carbonell from Lost
Ruben Blades

Directed by Dean Wright, visual effects supervisor for the first two Chronicles of Narnia movies, and visual effects producer for Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and Return of the King

Original Music by James Horner of Titanic, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, The Mask of Zorro, and Apollo 13 fame

1 posted on 03/30/2011 6:26:14 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 03/30/2011 6:28:02 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

I thought Peter O’Toole died?? I must be thinking of Bob Crane.


3 posted on 03/30/2011 6:29:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Pyro7480

Sounds like an interesting film.


4 posted on 03/30/2011 6:40:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Pyro7480

It’s probably a fine movie, but I’ve walked out of two movies recently — both shown at church — because of my distaste for graphic violence.


5 posted on 03/30/2011 6:43:05 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: Pyro7480

The Mexican caudillo of the time initiated priest hunts - kill-on-sight orders against Catholic priests.


6 posted on 03/30/2011 7:04:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Zhang Fei

Some of the Cristeros, including priests, also engaged in atrocities.


7 posted on 03/30/2011 7:18:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Pyro7480

Peter O’Toole is still alive? Who knew?


8 posted on 03/30/2011 7:29:39 PM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Pyro7480
Father Miguel Pro is one of my personal heroes. We could use men like him in the priesthood today.

An assassination attempt by bombing against Álvaro Obregón (which only wounded the ex-president) in November 1927 provided the state with a pretext to capture Fr. Miguel Pro and his brothers Humberto and Roberto. A young engineer who was involved and confessed his part in the assassination testified the Pro brothers were not involved. [7] Miguel and his brothers were taken to the Detective Inspector's Office in Mexico City.

On November 13, 1927, President Calles gave orders to have Pro executed under the pretext of the assassination, but in reality for defying the virtual outlawing of Catholicism. [5] Calles had the execution meticulously photographed, and the newspapers throughout the country carried them on the front page the following day. Presumably, Calles thought that the sight of the pictures would frighten the Cristero rebels who were fighting against his troops, particularly in the state of Jalisco. However, they had the opposite effect.

Fr. Pro and his brothers were visited by Generals Roberto Cruz and Palomera Lopez around 11 p.m. on November 22, 1927. The next day, as Fr. Pro walked from his cell to the courtyard and the firing squad, he blessed the soldiers, knelt and briefly prayed quietly. Declining a blindfold, he faced his executioners with a crucifix in one hand and a rosary in the other and held his arms out in imitation of the crucified Christ and shouted out, "May God have mercy on you! May God bless you! Lord, Thou knowest that I am innocent! With all my heart I forgive my enemies!" [5] Before the firing squad were ordered to shoot, Pro raised his arms in imitation of Christ and shouted the defiant cry of the Cristeros, "Viva Cristo Rey!" -"Long live Christ the King!" [5]. When the initial shots of the firing squad failed to kill him, a soldier shot him point blank.

People lined the streets for miles when his body was transported from the prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Pro
9 posted on 03/30/2011 7:32:13 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Sherman Logan

So, in your opinion, there’s a moral equivalence between the two sides?


10 posted on 03/30/2011 7:34:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Frantzie; Huck

I just looked him up on IMDB. He will be 79 and has 3 movies coming out this year!


11 posted on 03/30/2011 7:36:43 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Sherman Logan
Some of the Cristeros, including priests, also engaged in atrocities.

I'd like to read the source for this claim.
12 posted on 03/30/2011 7:39:33 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Straight Vermonter

Maybe he had all his money in a Madoff account and had to come out of retirement.


13 posted on 03/30/2011 7:42:29 PM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Wow!

I am not Catholic, but I would have stood by them against such tyranny.

First they came for the Jews....


14 posted on 03/30/2011 7:46:17 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, it’s certainly not a case of brutal government persecuting unresisting Christians as in ancient Rome.

While the government was certainly brutal enough, the Catholics resisted quite effectively, to the point that estimates have considerably more casualties on the federal side than on that of the rebels.

You can call that religious persecution if you like, but it looks a lot more like a civil war to me.

To answer your question directly, there are degrees of moral equivalence. Seldom in human affairs is one side utterly evil and the other totally good. So most of the time either accepting full moral equivalence or rejecting it completely is inappropriate.

The question is (usually) not one of whether moral equivalence exists, it is one of how much in a particular case.


15 posted on 03/30/2011 7:46:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Some of the Cristeros, including priests, also engaged in atrocities.” ==========

Oh, RI-i-g-h-t. And your footnotes are where?


16 posted on 03/30/2011 7:51:05 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Cristero.htm

Father Jose Vega was particularly notorious. He reportedly had a train full of civilians doused with gasoline and ignited in revenge for the death of his brother in combat. Not exactly Christ-like.

Many hundreds of rural schoolteachers were also assassinated before, during and after the war by those who thought the Church should instruct children.


17 posted on 03/30/2011 7:52:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“Well, it’s certainly not a case of brutal government persecuting unresisting Christians as in ancient Rome.”

It started that way, as it did in Spain a few years later. In Spain the army revolted against the elected government when it took no action to protect the Church or even basic property rights from the Bolshevik mobs; the Communist government literally outlawed Mass (and killed twelve or thirteen bishops, on top of thousands of priests and dozens of nuns). As in Mexico, many of those religious also proclaimed “Viva Cristo Rey!” as they were martyred; it became the battle cry of the Carlists on the Nationalist side.

The current (Leftist) government of Spain has erased that history; thankfully the Vatican has been canonizing the martyrs of the war in Spain (and some from Mexico as well) so that nobody can deny the events of the first half of the 20th century. The Left is still as focused as it was then, and has lulled people into complacency as they divert attention to nonsense while they keep Marx’s dream alive.


18 posted on 03/30/2011 8:48:43 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for the link. Interesting history lesson. Do you have an idea which “side” the film portrays positively?
19 posted on 03/30/2011 8:55:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Huck
Peter O’Toole is still alive? Who knew?

Yep, he's a amazing actor. My bet is on him playing this character: Exiled Mexican conservatives appealed to Catholic France, Catholic Spain and the pope, plus other Europeans. French, Spanish and some English forces invaded Mexico, driving Juarez to the north. A Habsburg noble, Maximilian, was installed as emperor -- but he was slow to revoke the anticlerical laws. The clergy and the pope's emissary felt betrayed. Europeans withdrew their military backing. Juarez regrouped, defeated Maximilian's militia, and executed the emperor in 1867.

20 posted on 03/30/2011 8:58:39 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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