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***The authenticity of this method of storing records in no way validates the Records found in America,***
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! (Of course they don't dear, no amount of evidence will ever prove anything true if you don't want it to.

I see your sarcasm but at least THESE LEAD plates are in our hot little hands, not like some so-called golden plates.

Really? so you have them personally?

OK, so some guy told you they exist, and you believed him... Got it.

Hey is this guy a christian? Does he even acknowledge Christ as his savior? No? But you believe him, over people who acknowledge Jesus, and are in fact Christians.

And we have people who can translate them without seer stones and they are NOT in “reformed Egyptian”.

So you'll believe a scholar over a man of God? What if they say "the Book of Mormon is true" where does that leave you? What if these documents support the Book of Mormon? Will you throw them under the bus?

As to the translating bit, the Rosetta Stone was not found until 1799, translation started in 1815, so in 1827 when Joseph Smith obtained the plates the Rosetta stone was neither accepted science nor well known.

The fact that the objections to the history and culture, geography and general scholarship of the book of Mormon ignore facts, supporting evidence and archeology are predictable.

My Dad taught me that "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still" So I know I'm not going to change your mind with facts.

Just in case anyone does care, A language referred to as reformed Egyptian used in America before Columbus, The Dead Sea Scrolls & Book of Mormon - Parallels The Lachish Letters: Archaeological Bullseye for the Book of Mormon

They actually match up more perfectly than anything in the Bible and outside archaeological discoveries. The Lachish Letters are nigh unto perfect for archaeological proof that Joseph Smith was *not* kidding when he said the BofM was real history.

Lastly, this is what it's like to have a conversation with an anti "Why can't Mormons send flowers?

Not gonna waste any more time on this "Argument" on what is supposed to be a political site, but now has had to be removed from my kids white list.

Delph

The fact that the objections to the history and culture, geography and general scholarship of the book of Mormon ignore facts, supporting evidence and archeology are predictable.

And the FACTS that support ANYTHING about MORMONism are not to be found anywhere.

Where IS the 'supporting evidence' and 'archeology' should be found all over Hill Cumorah?

Where ARE the massive cites?

Where ARE the 'mouldering' bones?

Why ARE the SLC 'mormons' failing to obey their GOD?

As to the translating bit, ~~the Rosetta Stone was not found until 1799, translation started in 1815, so in 1827 when Joseph Smith obtained the plates the Rosetta stone was neither accepted science nor well known.~~ it is well documented that JOSEPH SMITH did NOT 'translate' ANYTHING!

He used a method of spirit writing; placing his FACE IN A HAT and dictating what he SAW to a stenographer!

***As to the translating bit, the Rosetta Stone was not found until 1799, translation started in 1815, so in 1827 when Joseph Smith obtained the plates the Rosetta stone was neither accepted science nor well known.****

But now we DO have it! And LOOK AT THIS from the BOOK OF ABRAHAM!

From the REAL papyrus of Abraham ...Verses 1-5

http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

(I/1) [”Osiris, the god’s father], prophet of Amon-Re, King of the Gods, prophet of Min who slaughters his enemies, prophet of Khonsu, the [one who exercises] authority in Thebes,
(I/2) [. . .] . . . Hor, the justified, son of the similarly titled overseer of secrets and purifier of the god, Osorwer, the justified, born by the [housewife and sistrum-player of ]
(I/3) [Amon]-Re, Taikhibit, the justified! May your ba-spirit live among them, and may you be buried on the west [of Thebes].”
(I/4) [”O Anubis(?),51 . . .] justification(?).
(I/5) [May you give to him] a good and splendid burial on the west of Thebes as on the mountains of Ma[nu](?).”
[Osiris shall be towed in]to the great lake of Khonsu,
and likewise [the Osiris Hor, the justified,] born of Taikhibit, the justified,
after his two arms have been [placed] at his heart, while
the Breathing Document, being what
is written on its interior and exterior, shall be wrapped in royal linen and placed (under) his left arm in the midst of his heart. The remainder of his
wrapping shall be made over it. As for the one for whom this book is made,
he thus breathes like the ba-spirit[s] of the gods, forever and ever.

Yessirie! Old JOE was really on the ball!