How can it be said? Because it's true. Scripture is inerrant -- it was not "written" by fallible men in that they originated the content; the Holy Spirit -- God -- inspired them to write scripture. The Roman Catholic "Church" isn't responsible for writing the Bible; God's word would be made manifest regardless -- as it was made manifest through the actions of GOD ALMIGHTY. He used fallible men, true -- just like he used a fallible, fallen woman named Mary to bear Christ -- to record HIS words. We have scripture despite the Romish "Church."
Really? I didn't see the line where it said God is not sovereign.
Nice attempt at deflection -- the quote from the catechism spoke specifically of Mary's "roles" -- one of which the "Church" defines as 'Mediatrix' -- I challenged you to find that in scripture in light of 1 Tim. 2:5. But, instead of confronting that, you ask about sovereignty? Go back and re-read the post.
Stop acting like I don't.
Who's acting? Not me. It IS an old, worn-out canard flung about by the Roman Catholic "Church" to try to refute Sola Scriptura without really knowing what means. Do you think it means that you have to find something word-for-word in scripture? If you do, you're incorrect. Basically it means that scripture is the ultimate authority for doctrine and teaching -- because it is the inerrant, inspired word of God.
That's why I'm giving you one.
That's a laugh! Got your ruler handy? *Snort* Gimme a break. I'm still waiting for an explanation for the conundrum between the Roman Catholic "Church" catechism that ascribes to Mary the authority to mediate when it stands in direct opposition to 1 Tim. 2:5... you know... God's word. "Educate" me on that...
Keep swingin' --
Hoss
Their deity will not take repentence, so the followers of the OPC/PCA will say that the person never was Christian at all!
To answer, they twist their weasel-words as
First between true and false conversion. The Bible recognizes that not everyone who says he believes in Christ really doesVoilą! (by the way, that means "see there" in French) -- the followers of Calvin-Machen use their rubber dictionaries to say "Oh, they never were Christian in the first place!"
Salvation of Infants Who DieThe OPC believes that God pre-damns infants to eternal hell. This isn't the Christian God of Love.
The Confession entertains the idea that at least some infants who die in infancy and some others "who are incapable of being outwardly called" are among the elect.
However, the Confession does not say that all such infants, etc., are saved.
| 12 “Therefore, son of man, say to your people, ‘If someone who is righteous disobeys, that person’s former righteousness will count for nothing. And if someone who is wicked repents, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation. The righteous person who sins will not be allowed to live even though they were formerly righteous.’ 13 If I tell a righteous person that they will surely live, but then they trust in their righteousness and do evil, none of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered; they will die for the evil they have done. 14 And if I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ but they then turn away from their sin and do what is just and right— 15 if they give back what they took in pledge for a loan, return what they have stolen, follow the decrees that give life, and do no evil—that person will surely live; they will not die. 16 None of the sins that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live. |
| John 4:42 describes Christ as "the Savior of the world," 1 John 2:2 Christ "is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." 1 Timothy 4:10 God is "the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe." |
WELL PUT.
“We have scripture despite the Romish “Church.””
Romish “Church?” What is that? If you’re trying to say that you have scripture in spite of the Catholic Church, then that is just more historical revisionism.
“Nice attempt at deflection — the quote from the catechism spoke specifically of Mary’s “roles” — one of which the “Church” defines as ‘Mediatrix’ — I challenged you to find that in scripture in light of 1 Tim. 2:5. But, instead of confronting that, you ask about sovereignty? Go back and re-read the post.”
Let’s see who is deflecting and who needs to go back and read the conversation. This conversation has nothing to do with Mary, and your the one who brought up sovereignty. Here it is:
574 Hoss: “Here’s a newsflash: God is SOVEREIGN.”
614 Me: “I don’t know why that’s a newsflash. Who disagrees with that?”
751 Hoss: “The Roman Catholic “Church” does—just showed you from its own catechism. 2 Tim. 2:5. Check it out.”
756 Me: “Really? I didn’t see the line where it said God is not sovereign.”
As you can see, I’m not the one deflecting by bring up Mary, and I’m not the one who brought up sovereignty.
“Basically it means that scripture is the ultimate authority for doctrine and teaching”
Sola Scriptura is latin for “by scripture alone.” How someone could get your definition out of “by scripture alone,” I don’t know.
“Keep swingin’ —”
Trash talk is no substitute for debate.
AMEN! Great teaching.
It IS an old, worn-out canard flung about by the Roman Catholic "Church" to try to refute Sola Scriptura without really knowing what means. Do you think it means that you have to find something word-for-word in scripture? If you do, you're incorrect. Basically it means that scripture is the ultimate authority for doctrine and teaching -- because it is the inerrant, inspired word of God.
AMEN! Scripture, our only rule of faith and practice.
When Roman Catholics actually read the Bible they see the glaring contradictions between Rome's teaching and the word of God. At that point, many leave the errors of Rome in the dust and head for a Bible-believing church where they find fellowship with saints who know whom they have believed.