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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^
| March 25, 2011
| Reuben Kramer
Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rome seems to be very Gay friendly.
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posted on
03/26/2011 6:08:29 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
To: WaterBoard
An example from the 2011 Grand Jury Report:
Father John Connor
"Rev. John P. Connor, who had been arrested and placed on probation for sexually abusing a 14-year-old student in his home diocese of Camden, New Jersey, served from 1988 until 1993 as assistant pastor of Saint Matthew Parish in Conshohocken with Cardinal Bevilacquas blessing.
Cardinal Bevilacqua - Child Molestor Enabler
When Archbishop Bevilacqua knowingly assigned this admitted child molester to duties at Saint Matthew Church, it was with the directive to educate youth.
A year after Father Connor returned to Camden, a priest and a teacher from Saint Matthew warned Msgr. Lynn that Father Connor was continuing a suspiciously close relationship he had developed with an eighth-grade boy at the Conshohocken parish.
Upon receiving these reports, Msgr. Lynn acted in his predictable way. He notified the Archdioceses attorney, but not the boys mother who unlike Msgr. Lynn had no way of knowing the priest she trusted with her son was an admitted sex offender."
A Philadelphia grand jury said Bevilacqua had been "untruthful" when he claimed a lack of knowledge about Connor's past.
After learning that a lawsuit was in the works, the grand jury said, Bevilacqua shipped Connor back to the Camden Diocese in 1993.
http://catholicsexabuse.com/THE_PHILADELPHIA_GRAND_JURY_REPORT/Section_V__Selected_Case_Studies_Father_John_P_Connor
To: Puddleglum
St. Peter Damian’s Book of Gomorrah: Homosexual Situation Graver than Damian’s Time
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/929551/posts
Homosexuality has been an issue in the Catholic church for over a thousand years.
Just how long to Catholics expect it to take for their clergy to address the issue?
What possible reason could they give to convince anyone that the church is finally taking the issue seriously and actually dealing with it? Precedent does not give the Catholic church any credibility in their claims that they’re *finally* addressing the issue.
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posted on
03/26/2011 6:11:04 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: MarkBsnr
If they were allowed to marry, none of this would happen and they would be full of the Christian love of God almighty and full of Christian charity to their fellow men... I'm interpreting that remark as sarcasm.
There are many Catholic young men who revere God and would love to be pastors. The problem for these boys is that they also like girls and find it impossible to give up the thought of a wife and family.
These boys could also be kind and loving pastors. I don't believe any passages in the Bible are opposed to that concept.
To: Gamecock
lol. The umbrella’s a nice touch.
If it were to rain all their make-up would smudge.
145
posted on
03/26/2011 6:15:43 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Palladin
146
posted on
03/26/2011 6:16:29 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: MarkBsnr
147
posted on
03/26/2011 6:17:40 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: WPaCon
That picture is nice, but as a Catholic, I prefer my cats to be homosexual. You'll have to look to the Presbyterians, I'm afraid.
Google found some rather sickening Presbyterian images that I'd rather not post here.
148
posted on
03/26/2011 6:18:41 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
To: Gamecock
Naturally, you don’t know the difference between the city of Rome and the Vatican nation-state.
To: Celtic Cross; Dr. Eckleburg
Whats the total percentage of Catholic priests who have been found guilty of pedophilia? I think you'll find its small.You tell us...and then tell us how this excuses them or the church that has facilitated them ?
To: RegulatorCountry
To: Celtic Cross
If you notice they have all been outed..removed from their ministry and handed over to the law..
Their churches did not cover for them or transfer them
To: WPaCon; HossB86
It looks like youre reveling in someone being insulted. Thats not normally considered Christian behavior. I believe that we have already had the Presbyterians establish for us that they were not Christian based upon the following points:
1. Rejection of the Gospel of Christ? Check.
2. Embracing Paulianity, rejected as heresy by the Church 1500 years ago? Check.
3. Gnostic declarations of personal salvation? Check.
4. Gnostic declarations of all others to hell? Check.
5. Nestorian heretical beliefs of the Trinity? Check.
6. Rejection of a number of statements in the Nicene Creed? Check.
There are a bunch more, but they have certainly convinced me that they are not Christian and don't intend to be any more than JWs or Mormons intend to be. They just want to use the name that they've attempted to hijack.
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posted on
03/26/2011 6:25:58 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: stevem
I went into the seminary in ninth grade. In those days most of the lasses I knew up close and personal were shaped like pencils. By twelfth grade that had all changed, and pheromones filled the air. It was pretty clear to me that celibacy wasn't in the cards.Would you have considered being a priest if you had been allowed to marry?
I feel it's sophistry to argue that Catholic rules engender evil.
The evil that was committed was transferring priests to other towns and churches so that they could harm other children.
Pederasts are all around us. Many of them aren't even Catholic.
Yes, pederasts are everywhere children can be found. Whenever a pastor, teacher, or coach sexually assaults a child, he must be investigated by authorities, not transferred.
To: buccaneer81
Spectacular post! Thanks. Truth is stranger than fiction. Who knew that Calvinists punished Christians for celebrating Christmas?
156
posted on
03/26/2011 6:27:33 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
To: MarkBsnr
Who knew that Calvinists punished Christians for celebrating Christmas? Actually, I did. Attending Catholic school in the Boston suburbs, I received a solid education.
To: Celtic Cross
This batch are all Presbyterians."Presbyterian" is a form of church government ... there are several "presbyterian" denominations.Notice though all were turned over to authorities. See the issue is there are still priests known to their superiors that are abusers and they are protected from prosecution by the church ... The Roman church loves its priests and it reputation more than its children
Catholics are way too busy praying for the abuses to get off because they are priests.. I want every minister that abuses stripped of his ministry and put in jail.. Priests are not special men entitled to special protection
To: WPaCon; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Gamecock
It looks like youre reveling in someone being insulted. Thats not normally considered Christian behavior. Actually, it's called a sense of humor. You should try it sometime. Really. With all of the argumentation that occurs here, one should be able to have a light-hearted comment from time to time.
Unless....
One actually believes that the typewritten word that appears here on this forum can actually leave a physical mark... if so - -well, then, there's more to the problem than a marked lack of humor.
Really. Lighten up.
Hoss
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posted on
03/26/2011 6:33:31 PM PDT
by
HossB86
( NOBODY admits to being a Calvinist unless they are one. I AM ONE.)
To: metmom
The problem is that the abuse was known and nothing was done about it except measures to protect the priests. They weren't disciplined, or defrocked, or turned over to the authorities. They were covered up and moved around and basically given access to fresh game...THAT'S the issue. This part goes without dispute. Bishops who enabled are as guilty as the abusers. They should join the abusers in prison.
Something tells me all bishops aren't enablers.
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posted on
03/26/2011 6:35:20 PM PDT
by
stevem
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