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Introduction: Heresy [The Great Heresies]
EWTN ^ | 1938 | Hilaire Belloc

Posted on 03/25/2011 11:20:21 AM PDT by WPaCon

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“”What are these immoralities allowed in Capitalism?””

Too many to mention, but once you have separation of Church and State it’s an open door to liberalism

Separation of Church and State is condemned as an anathema and is dogmatic Church teaching of the Catholic Church in the Syllabus of Errors
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm

“”Are you saying Capitalism causes people to become too materialistic?””

Yes, but not everyone . You can clearly see that our society is materialistic,dear friend,not many people would deny this

“”Because Capitalism causes virtually everyone to eventually be wealthy, wouldn’t people in a capitalist society be less focused on wealth than people who have to constantly worry about trying to get by?””

If this were true everyone would be wealthy where there is Capitalism by now. Sorry ,It is not true and the corrupt wealthy are only concerned about the poor if they can gain something out of it.

I’m not saying there are not good loving people who are wealthy,but it’s not always a blessing from God to be wealthy like the Calvinists believe. The beatitudes suggests otherwise,dear friend

I’ll leave you with one more good article to read
http://distributist.blogspot.com/2007/03/separation-of-church-and-state.html


21 posted on 03/26/2011 7:59:50 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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Separation of Church and State is condemned as an anathema and is dogmatic Church teaching of the Catholic Church in the Syllabus of Errors

Not at all surprising, coming from a church that is a state.

22 posted on 03/26/2011 8:04:29 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Remember, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not separation of church and state.

Stfassisi can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe freedom of religion was endorsed by Vatican II.


23 posted on 03/26/2011 11:15:28 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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Remember, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not separation of church and state.

Yes it does,but we don't seem to follow this anymore with the rogue court system theses day

but I believe freedom of religion was endorsed by Vatican II.

That is correct,it goes back further than that as well ans was taught by the Church Fathers

From Tertullian in the 2nd century..

It is a fundamental human right, a privilege of nature, that every man should worship according to his own convictions: one man’s religion neither harms nor helps another man. It is assuredly no part of religion to compel religion— to which free-will and not force should lead us— the sacrificial victims even being required of a willing mind. You will render no real service to your gods by compelling us to sacrifice. For they can have no desire of offerings from the unwilling.[

24 posted on 03/26/2011 11:32:02 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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It's a pity Tertullian's 2nd century admonition was apparently forgotten by the medieval era, then. Behavior was distinctly on the side of compulsion, once the shoe had been comfortably on the other foot for centuries.

A church to which I do not belong, having taxing authority over me? Why does this sound like nothing so much as paying the jizya under Islam?

25 posted on 03/26/2011 2:16:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I’m not an historian, so I won’t get into the intricacies of the relationship between church and state, but I’d like to point out that jizya is only for non-Muslims.

Stfassisi, I’ve begun reading the distributist articles. I believe Woods may be one of the people that John Sharpe is arguing against. For one thing, he is in the Ludwig von Mises Institute and I believe he uses the Spanish Scholastics for support for his arguments. I’m going to continue reading up on distributism, although I must admit that I still remain a little skeptical of it.


26 posted on 03/26/2011 4:43:36 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“It’s a pity Tertullian’s 2nd century admonition was apparently forgotten by the medieval era””

Church teaching did not change,some people felt they could ignore it and force others

There were great efforts to protect the innocent by those who followed Church teaching that goes unnoticed as well. Sadly, everyone focuses on the bad


27 posted on 03/26/2011 5:53:41 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: WPaCon

I suggest you read Belloc’s Survivals and New Arrivals.

Survivals and New Arrivals By Hilaire Belloc
http://www.onlygooddreams.com/articles/Belloc—Survivals-and-New-Arrivals.php#4

Belloc is not a fan of modern America because he understood the protestant roots of error. Belloc’s position on Islam is also close to his position on protestantism and it’s relation to modern america because they both have anti Catholic roots

Belloc is correct on this


28 posted on 03/26/2011 6:05:23 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: WPaCon

Here is the full link

http://www.onlygooddreams.com/articles/Belloc—Survivals-and-New-Arrivals.php#1


29 posted on 03/26/2011 6:08:37 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Thanks for the suggestion.


30 posted on 03/26/2011 6:09:28 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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