[blasater1960]

You make my point. Water is both singular (water) and plural (waters) simultaneously.

No I didnt. There is no "water" or "waters" in Hebrew, only MAYIM. Your point fails.

So what if water takes different forms. That proves nothing. Youare still making G-d out to be a liar because he says he is One, NO FORM, No other savior, no other Rock, etc....If G-d was 3-in-1 he would have PLAINLY and DIRECTLY said so. He did not.

[sasportas]

For the Christians who read this interchange between Blasater and myself, you might ask what has this to do with the subject of this thread? Plenty. Here’s the connection: Kabbalist Judaism - Gnosticism - Freemasonry - Joseph Smith - Mormonism.

Joseph Smith was a Freemason and an occultist. Many of Mormonism’s doctrines are Kabbalist/Gnostic/Masonic and occult based.

[Elsie]

Youare still making G-d out to be a liar because he says he is One, NO FORM, No other savior, no other Rock, etc....Then just who is the US in Genesis?

Let US make man in OUR image?

[Colofornian]

Youare still making G-d out to be a liar because he says he is One, NO FORM, No other savior, no other Rock, etc

No, you are actually making G-d about to be some naked bare unsocial unity from eternity!

Go back before people were created. Go back before angels were created.

What? Your God just mumbled to Himself -- like the God of Islam?

No social love from one personality to another like the Christian God?

Don't tell us you have a God of love who had no one to love and therefore NEEDED angels and people! The true God had no such need. He was perfect & complete in Himself!

Yet He is more ONE (unified) than He is Tri.

Only a Great Being could be One, yet be a compound Unity.

Of course, there is no "Other" because the three are one. You keep insisting they are another; I tell you the Divine One is three. If you see vapor ascending from the water, they are both one. Yet the water embodied in the pool is not in vapor form.

Likewise the invisibility of the Father is still our Savior -- see Ps. 106:21; Ps. 45:21-23; Is. 43:3. Yet Yeshua the embodied Messiah, as foretold by the Old Testament, is also our Savior (John 4:42; 1 John 4:14; Acts 20:28; Acts 4:12).

The invisibility of the Father is still our Rock -- see Isaiah 17:10; 2 Sam. 22:32; Deut. 32:4. Yet the New Testament identifies that Rock in the Old Testament as Jesus! See 1 Cor. 10:4; 1 Peter 2:6-8 in conjunction with Numbers 20:12!!!

You see, Proverbs 30:4 asks the question: What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!

Well, the New Testament revelation of G-d was unveiled to reveal the answer to that question! Yeshua!