[Notary Sojac]

I'm no Mormon. I personally think Joe Smith made it all up. But conventional, trinitarian Christianity is as much the product of human invention as are the doctrines of Mormonism.

"The Emperor Constantine, who lifted Christianity into power, murdered his wife Fausta, and his eldest son Crispus, the same year that he convened the Council of Nice to decide whether Jesus Christ was a man or the Son of God. The council decided that Christ was consubstantial with the father. This was in the year 325. We are thus indebted to a wife-murderer for settling the vexed question of the divinity of the Savior.

Theodosius called a council at Constantinople in 381, and this council decided that the Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father. Theodosius, the younger, assembled another council at Ephesus to ascertain who the Virgin Mary really was, and it was solemnly decided in the year 431 that she was the Mother of God.

In 451 it was decided by a council held at Chalcedon, called together by the Emperor Marcian, that Christ had two natures -- the human and divine. In 680, in another general council, held at Constantinople, convened by order of Pognatius, it was also decided that Christ had two wills, and in the year 1274 it was decided at the Council of Lyons, that the Holy Ghost proceeded not only from the Father, but from the Son as well.

Had it not been for these councils, we might have been without a Trinity even unto this day. When we take into consideration the fact that a belief in the Trinity is absolutely essential to salvation, how unfortunate it was for the world that this doctrine was not established until the year 1274. Think of the millions that dropped into hell while these questions were being discussed."
- Robert G. Ingersoll

[svcw]

What is your point? What you posted is nearly identical to what lds post, are you sure you are not really lds or a defender of lds?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***- Robert G. Ingersoll****

The word of GOD he hated lives on while he has rotted in his grave.

[barney10]

Amen!

[ejonesie22]

Um...

No.

[Colofornian]

"The Emperor Constantine, who lifted Christianity into power, murdered his wife Fausta, and his eldest son Crispus, the same year that he convened the Council of Nice to decide whether Jesus Christ was a man or the Son of God. The council decided that Christ was consubstantial with the father. This was in the year 325. We are thus indebted to a wife-murderer for settling the vexed question of the divinity of the Savior.

Well, hey. Why stop there? Both Moses & David were effectively guilty of manslaughter each.

And Saul (to be Paul) was persecuting the early Christian church; hence, he was part of the ugly atmosphere that stoned Stephen to death. Why Paul even called himself "the chief of sinners."

So imagine that. Such "sinners" darkening the doors of either God's church or approaching God in constant conversation and praise.

You know. There just might be room for you, after all. (Unless, of course, you know how you're going to justify your sin in God's eyes when you encounter Him face-to-face).

[Elsie]

Had it not been for these councils, we might have been without a Trinity even unto this day

Might, maybe, could be, perhaps.

BAH!

[Elsie]

When we take into consideration the fact that a belief in the Trinity is absolutely essential to salvation, how unfortunate it was for the world that this doctrine was not established until the year 1274.

HA ha ha!

You REALLY should the BOOK that trinity is based upon!

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

[Colofornian]

Nice that you go around quoting an embittered man who didn't like the way one dinky church treated his pastor-father (Robert G. Ingersoll).

Bitter soil is so solid to build upon, eh?