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The Christ of Mormonism (Real Mormonism)
Mormon Coffee (Mormonism Research Ministry) ^ | March 14, 2011 | Aaron Shafovaloff

Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian

Written by a local ex-Mormon Christian friend of mine: —

This is the Christ of Mormonism:

1. He lives as a humanoid god on a star near Kolob along with his father god, bound by the physical world; he does not transcend the material.

2. He is the brother of satan.

3. He had to earn his own salvation while he was on earth.

4. He offers his “grace” only to those who work hard enough.

5. He is not from everlasting to everlasting, but was created a finite time ago by his father god, who in turn was also created by his own father god, who in turn was created by his own father god, so on and so forth

6. He is not the greatest being possible.

7. He is finite.

8. His blood is not powerful enough to wipe away any sin.

9. He aided his father in creating earth by organizing already existing matter; he is not capable of creating things out of nothing.

10. He must submit to a moral law that existed before he did.

11. You can one day become just like him.

This is the Christ of the Bible:

1. He is a spirit being that transcends space and time.

2. He is the brother of no creature; He is God, from everlasting to everlasting. No one can claim kinship with Him except those He purchased for Himself on the cross. And He is not the same type of creature they are. He is not a creature, He is God.

3. Jesus is the Author of Salvation; to say that He needed to earn His salvation is absurdity.

4. He offers His sovereign grace to whomever He sovereignly chooses; we are all tainted by sin and vile in His holy eyes. Therefore, no one is more worthy than any other human being. Thus, His grace that He offers is given unconditionally. His grace is true grace, a beautiful gift.

5. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He was never created, and Has been in relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit forever.

6. He is the greatest being possible, the Most High God. There is no one like Him and there is no one who will ever be anything like Him.

7. He is infinite, both in essence and in His divine perfections.

8. His blood is powerful enough to wipe away any sin, regardless of heinousness and duration. The only sin that cannot be forgive is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; and this is not because the blood of Christ is not powerful enough to wash it away, but because God has so sovereignly decreed that all persons who blaspheme the Holy Ghost should not receive forgiveness.

9. He created everything that exists out of nothing by the mere word of His mouth.

10. There is no external law that He submits to; He is the Author and the Source of the Law.

11. No one can ever come near to obtaining the glory and excellency of Christ.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; christianjihad; evangelicalbigots; jesuschrist; jihad; lds; mormon; notthiscrapagain
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To: Paragon Defender
Hey there PD!

Which one of your links contains the instructions on how to perform the RITUALS you guys do in your Temples?


101 posted on 03/25/2011 12:43:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Notary Sojac
Personally, I am an atheist. And apparently one who wishs to trumpet what he believes on FR!

How cool is THAT!?

102 posted on 03/25/2011 12:45:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: magritte
...you obviously know this, why are you inquiring??...magritte

Fresh meat.

THEY don't know from whence thou cometh.

Don't you have some Jews to tell they got WAY too many rules to follow?

103 posted on 03/25/2011 12:47:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
(I can not think of anything to say here that would not be sarcastic, so I wont.)

You are TOO kind, Fellow Flying Inman!

Freepmail ME; as I sure have no limitations in THAT department!

I've plenty of 2*4's in case THIS one breaks or wears out!

104 posted on 03/25/2011 12:49:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

AMEN!


105 posted on 03/25/2011 12:50:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jimt
Yep, nothing like a Three Minutes Hate !

You may want to prepare a snack and get a drink; for this is going to last MUCH longer than that.

106 posted on 03/25/2011 12:53:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender; SZonian
You do know you post in English on an open forum, right?
107 posted on 03/25/2011 12:53:58 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Elsie
What UP with a nice, Noahide girl like you anyway?

Yeah. Always jumping in to bash the detestable "Evangelicals".

108 posted on 03/25/2011 12:56:09 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: ejonesie22; SZonian
You do know you post in English on an open forum, right?

LOL

109 posted on 03/25/2011 12:57:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: KevinDavis
So you want Mormons banned from this site??

Way to create a statement out of thin air!

Maybe you can point out to this “knucklehead” where EXACTLY I or anyone else here has denied them or anyone their 1st amendment right and or “abused” them?

They post on FR, proseletyze or knock on doors about their religion claiming it is THE Christianity, telling me that I follow a WHORE of a church and I’m supposed to remain silent on the matter?

You all better think again, because it ain’t gonna happen.

That some on FR get their knickers in knot over this is a good thing to see because it just demonstrates one of two things; either abject ignorance about mormonism or thinly veiled bigotry to those who resist mormonism’s advances.

Creative - just like Joseph Smith:

"Mother; I've learned for myself that PRESBYTERIANism is untrue."

110 posted on 03/25/2011 12:58:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ichabod1

I think you’ve lost your head...


111 posted on 03/25/2011 1:00:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ichabod1
... Heavenly Father told me this morning ...


112 posted on 03/25/2011 1:03:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: proudpapa; SZonian; Elsie; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; svcw; scory; ichabod1
When I started college I enrolled in the Mormon Institute of Religion class. I started asking questions in class, trying to find answers to my doubts. But one day my institute teacher took me aside and told me to please stop asking questions in class. There was a girl attending the class who was thinking of joining the church and I was disturbing her with my questions. What a surprise! I had hoped to find answers to the many things that were bothering me and now I had been silenced.

Ah, the bold-faced part above must be heaven-on-earth for Mormons. No bothersome questions.

(Now I understand why the Mormon HQ sent that worldwide circular last late October -- telling the Mormon faithful to stop asking them questions)

113 posted on 03/25/2011 1:03:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Elsie

Heavenly Father doesn’t think so.


114 posted on 03/25/2011 1:06:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Elsie; KevinDavis; SZonian
So you want Mormons banned from this site?? [Kevin Davis]

Maybe if Kevin just self banned himself...would the thread iq AVG automatically leap in bounds?

Of course, if he banned himself, he'd probably be mumbling somewhere about some censor-tyrant infringing upon his rights.

115 posted on 03/25/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Elsie; ichabod1
... Heavenly Father told me this morning ...

Surely...Els...you've just haven't kept up with your daily 'scripture' readings...First Ichabod 3:16

116 posted on 03/25/2011 1:09:09 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: ichabod1; Elsie
Heavenly Father doesn’t think so.

Is this the guy who...
was once a man?
hasn't been eternally a man or God (eternal past)?
inherited a wife? (or inherited a harem?)
came down & got Mary pregnant "rather than let any other man do it" (Brigham Young's quoted words, not mine)?
and won't let any unmarried or non-temple Mormon live with him forever?
(You know, ICHY, the once who discriminated priesthood & temple status for 148 years due to skin color and had trouble convincing Brigham for over 20 years that he wasn't Adam.)

117 posted on 03/25/2011 1:15:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Joseph Smith a liar, thief, adulterer, pedophile, flim flam man, con artist, a man who claimed he will decide who gets into heaven, a man who claimed he would be the next mohammad

This is what I thought was abusive, but obsesively attacking someone else's religion is also abuse.

118 posted on 03/25/2011 1:21:18 PM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: sasportas
.....Ingersoll quoting Atheist.......

A question, not necessarily addressed to you:

Why is an atheist on the "Religion Forum"? They claim to have no religion, could it be that atheism is their religion?

119 posted on 03/25/2011 1:24:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
when a backwoods rube walked out of the woods claiming he had seen God and angels and a gold book no one has ever seen

Are you familiar with the story of the Rosary, Lourdes, or that of the Apostle Paul?

120 posted on 03/25/2011 1:27:43 PM PDT by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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