[Cronos]

from the catechism Grace is first and foremost the gift of the Spirit who justifies and sanctifies us. But grace also includes the gifts that the Spirit grants us to associate us with his work... There are furthermore special graces, also called charisms after the Greek term used by St. Paul and meaning "favor," "gratuitous gift," "benefit."53 Whatever their character - sometimes it is extraordinary, such as the gift of miracles or of tongues - charisms are oriented toward sanctifying grace and are intended for the common good of the Church.

While I think we need to be cautious of these (i.e. we must be sure that they are from God not the other guy) and I believe that even gifts such as quiet contemplation, scholastic study etc. are gifts, to say that these gifts ceased is utterly wrong.

[Quix]

AGREED.

[Mad Dawg]

While I think we need to be cautious of these (i.e. we must be sure that they are from God not the other guy)

This is one reason we must find, if not spiritual "directors" or guides or fathers or what have you, at least spiritual friends, who will kick us in the behind when we need it.

I referred earlier to my little picture of Dominic praying over the dead child. It's a fine painting, but one aspect of its "truth" is that Dominic has his hands extended over the child but his eyes are directed upwards and his expression is one of deep supplication.

There is not the least hint of "I've got the power!" It's ALL,"Lord, have mercy!"

And yes, not only do all things work together for good for them that are in Christ Jesus, but all things are gifts. Having nothing at last, we can begin to receive all things as the Lord directs.

Me personally, I'm just gratefully relieved when I am coherent ...