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Death Blow to Mormonism – The Book of Abraham is a Fake?
PomoTheo ^ | 2006 | Pomo

Posted on 03/19/2011 9:47:13 PM PDT by delacoert

First off, some information, what is the Book of Abraham? Well the book was derived from a set of Egyptian papyri purchased by the Joseph Smith in 1835 from a traveling mummy show. Although no formal training in Egyptology, Joseph Smith created a translation of part of the papyri, and the work was published called the The Book of Abraham. Today it remains a component of the Mormon quad--their canon of scripture. [The text is published as part of the Pearl of Great Price, one of the four canonical scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.]

Why is this important? Well firstly, Joseph Smith, the prophet, translated the papyri. Secondly, the book is part of the Mormon canon. Thirdly, the Book of Abraham provides justification for important Mormon doctrines, including the exaltation of man, plurality of gods, priesthood, and pre-mortal existence not found in any of the other canonized scriptures of the LDS.

So you're probably asking big deal, he translated some scrolls. Well not exactly. What if we had the exact same papyri that Joseph Smith used for his translation? Would the results be the same? Well get this, in 1966 some of the papyrus scrolls were found in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. Based on this rediscovered source material of the Book of Abraham, qualified Egyptologists can once again complete a translation. What they found is startling.

Using illustrations and the original text of the Book of Abraham it was found thedocuments are in fact funerary texts that describe events in the afterlife of deceased Egyptians that is consistent with other historical and archaeological evidence. Today we can prove that Joseph Smith incorrectly translated the papyrus.
Independent scholars, Egyptologists, are in agreement about the nature of the documents. Only church sanctioned Mormon Universities still try to claim the translation is still correct. Mormon scholars currently do not discuss the translation since it's not open to debate, the documents are clearly funerary in origin.
Why is this a death blow to Mormonism? As stated above, Joseph Smith is a prophet to the LDS church, but he states that the Book of Abraham is:

A Translation of some Ancient Records that have fallen into our hands, from the Catacombs of Egypt, purporting to be the writings of Abraham, while he was in Egypt.[1]

After closer examination, Smith also declared,

... with W. W. Phelps and Oliver Cowdery as scribes, I commenced the translation of some of the characters or hieroglyphics, and much to our joy found that one of the rolls contained the writings of Abraham, another the writings of Joseph of Egypt, etc. -- a more full account of which will appear in its place, as I proceed to examine or unfold them.[2]

Joseph claimed that he received divine inspiration in having discovered and translated an existing ancient work. Joseph claimed to be the prophet, seer, and revelator who could decipher it. Joseph Smith the prophet was wrong.

How can a prophet be wrong yet people still trust his other works? Well it doesn't stop there. For each of the facsimiles, Joseph Smith offered a detailed explanation or interpretation of various elements on the papyrus and fragments. Here is one of those facsimiles (number 3).

Smith 'translated' this image as such: a representation of Abraham sitting on the Pharaoh's throne teaching the principles of astronomy to the Egyptian court. The figure behind "Abraham in Egypt" is "King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head." The figure before "Abraham" is "Prince of Pharaoh, King of Egypt". The dark character is "Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince" and in between is "Shulem, one of the king’s principal waiters".

What do independent Egyptologists say? This is merely the judgment of the dead before the occupied throne of the Egyptian god, Osiris.[17] The picture of Osiris shows his typical headdress or crown and his arms are placed in a typical position in which he holds a sceptre and a flail. In front of Osiris, but with her face turned away, is Ma'at, the Egyptian goddess of justice, truth and order wearing her traditional feather on her head.

Unfortunately for Joseph Smith both the recovered papyri and the facsimiles published with the Book of Abraham bear no direct connection, either historical or textual, to Abraham. Abraham's name does not appear anywhere in the papyri or the facsimiles.

I've read some of the Mormon positions/rebuttals on the subject and let me say they are aren't well articulated and contain very poor scholarship. The Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS), is trying in vain to respond to the material but again the scholarship is less than stellar.

How should we approach these conclusions? The theological implications are great, if you can't trust the Book of Abraham then plurality of gods, pre-mortal existence, and more, have zero validity in the LDS faith. Fact of the matter is you can't reason your way to convince anybody out of their particular faith even if there is damning evidence to discredit their most sacred prophet.

Many Mormons value their faith, value their experiences, and as such will not 'convert' as a result of a scientific debunking of one of their scriptures. In the very least I hope it makes everyone dig a little deeper when learning about their own faith.

1. See History of the Church, vol. 2, pp. 235, 236, 348-3512. History of the Church, Vol. 2, Ch. 17, p. 236. July 1835

17. See for example The Judgment of the Dead. Retrieved on 2006-08-07.

25. Richard A. Parker, "The Joseph Smith Papyri: A Preliminary Report", Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Summer 1968, p. 98.

32. Stephen E. Thompson, "Egyptology and the Book of Abraham", Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 28/1 (Spring 1995): 148-152. See also the translations in the Analysis of the Joseph Smith papyri section of this article.

33. The Joseph Smith Hypocephalus ... Twenty Years Later. Retrieved on 2006-08-07. In this article, Michael D. Rhodes examines facsimile 2, the hypocephalus, and notes that the four sons of Horus (figure 6) plausibly fits with Joseph Smith's explanation that the figure "represents this earth in its four quarters".

Many sources from Wikipedia

 


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To: rickomatic

So this is where God’s gift of sight and reason comes to good use:

Mathew 7:16 - “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”

So we’re on the hunt, looking for beliefs that lead to destruction...

Let’s evaluate these places with our eyes to see if we can discern the fruit those ideologies bear:

1. Chitiniza, Mexico
—I see ruins of a long ago destroyed people.
—Conclusion, religion involving human sacrifice isn’t going to have a good outcome.
2. Detroit, Michigan
—I see ruins of industry.
—Conclusion, liberalism & unionism isn’t good for industry.
3. North Korea (As viewed from space)
—I see a land in stark comparison to it’s neighbors.
—Conclusion, Communism / Atheism develops only starvation & poverty. Godless, central planning for the good of all doesn’t work.
4. Baghdad - Iraq, Grozny - Chechnya, Islamabad - Pakistan...
—I see poverty, death & decay all around.
—Religious extremism, especially religions based on a murderer & bandit prophet, don’t lead to a peaceful prosperous people.

Now lets apply this test to Mormons:
5. Salt Lake City, Utah
—I see larger families, stable jobs, low crime and few homeless compared to most cities in the world of comparable size.
—Conclusion? If these people are careening towards destruction, the cracks are either non-existent or not apparent.

Who gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes.


81 posted on 03/23/2011 11:50:49 AM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51; rickomatic

First of all, the “destruction” rick is talking about is spiritual destruction.

Second, your premise is faulty. Your own personal observations don’t hold any weight when compared to the facts.

I’m not going to do the work for you, but all is not well in Zion. Utah is falling in many health and socio-economic related categories. They’re only marginally better than the national average mainly because of the church welfare system that takes on many of the cases that would otherwise go to the taxpayers and thus become part of the statistical averages.

Then there is this little nugget;
http://www.mmdnewswire.com/utah-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants-28003.html

Done with the direct help, lobbying, involvement and “encouragement” of the mormon church “leadership”.

They’ve made their position known quite clearly; “One thing is clear: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has abandoned its claims to neutrality on these bills.”

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51439173-76/bills-burton-church-immigration.html.csp?page=1

They’ve just accelerated their demise, all in the name of “religion”. The mormon church hierarchy has sold out the people of Utah.

It’s quite easy to scratch the surface of any state and see the problems, if one is only willing.

Utah is not exempt and is not the shining pillar it once may have been.


82 posted on 03/23/2011 1:40:28 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: RC51; SZonian
So we’re on the hunt, looking for beliefs that lead to destruction...

SZonian is exactly right. I am not talking about physical destruction, I am talking about spiritual destruction. It is the false doctrine of Mormonism that leads to spiritual destruction. And that is what I will continue to condemn. Whether anyone takes heeds to the warnings in these posts is their own business. But, "I didn't know"........will not be an excuse.
83 posted on 03/23/2011 5:51:20 PM PDT by rickomatic
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