The "Prophecy" of Bella Dodd [the Communist Subversion of the Church]

www.fatimaperspectives.com ^ | 2000 | Christopher A. Ferrara

[verdugo]

LIBERATION THEOLOGY,

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK:

"Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

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Bump the premise.

[G Larry]

AA-1025 (Anti-Apostle # 1025)
Memoirs fo the Communist Infiltration into the Church
Revealed b Marie Carre’

A nurse presents the manuscript found in the briefcase of a traffic accident victim. (She was attempting to find identification for notice to family)

[verdugo]

From : Anti-Communist Archbishop Marcel Levevbre's 1981 Triumphant Reception in Mexico

1981

During an early year visit to the States, Archbishop Lefebvre dedicates the complex of Jesus and Mary in El Paso, Texas. In the afternoon of January 4, 200 children are confirmed. On January 6, four years after a visa had been denied to Archbishop Lefebvre due to pressure put on the government by the bishops of Mexico, our founder crosses the border for what turns out to be a triumphant tour of the country of the Cristeros [see The Angelus, Dec. 1993-Ed.].Followed continuously by the Mexican secret police, the Archbishop visits in the south of the country large areas of very poor Indians who, astonished, received an affirmative answer to their request for a truly Catholic bishop coming to support their fight for the Faith before the Communist clergy, sold to Liberation Theology. He is received like a conquering hero, walking among cheering crowds of thousands in villages festooned with ribbons, garlands, and the magnificent fragrant flowers of those latitudes. Some natives walk as much as 100 miles through mountains to bring their children to be confirmed and to be able to kiss the episcopal ring and receive the blessing of Marcel Lefebvre, "el hombre justo."(the just man). In Tlaxiaco, while the local diocesan bishop celebrates the New Mass for 25 people, thousands attend the solemn ceremonies presided by Archbishop Lefebvre.

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ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH

"What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." (Commonitorium)

from: http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/popelim.txt

[the invisib1e hand]

Ps: what the church tolerates the culture embraces.

[Mortrey]

ping

[verdugo]

From: Progressivist Bishops Hijack Vatican II

Vatican II

We will take a quick look at an episode that demonstrates Modernism at work at the Second Vatican Council, and Modernism at work in those Churchmen for whom Vatican II is new center of the universe.

As is well-known, Pope John XXIII established a Central Preparatory Committee prior to the Council. This Committee spent two years preparing the schemas for the Council. These were to be the main drafts the bishops would discuss once Vatican II opened.

These first drafts were in splendid accord with the traditional teaching of the Church. Cardinal Ottaviani of the Holy Office oversaw the drafting of the documents, and the work was carried out with great care. If these documents had been followed at the Council, the discussions of the bishops and theologians would have been forced to proceed along traditional lines.

Of the original schemas on Vatican II, Archbishop Maracel Lefebvre said:

“I was nominated a member of the Central Preparatory Commis­sion by the Pope and I took an assiduous and enthusiastic part in its two years of work. The central Com­mission had the responsibility of checking and examining all the preparatory schemas which came from the specialist commissions … This work was carried out very conscientiously and met­ic­ulously. I still possess the seventy-two prepar­atory schemas; in them the Church’s doctrine is absolutely orthodox. They were adapted in a certain manner to our times, but with great moderation and discretion.”37

As is also well known, however, immediately after the Council opened, the liberal bishops from the Rhineland countries protested against the original documents. They complained that they had no input in them, and put forward other specious objections. The entire matter was put to a vote, and the documents that had been two years in preparation were scrapped.

Archbishop Lefebvre recalls,

“Everything was ready for the date announced and on 11th October, 1962, the Fathers took their places in the nave of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. But then an occurrence took place which had not been foreseen by the Holy See. From the very first days, the Council was be­sieged by the progressive forces … fifteen days after the opening sessions not one of the seventy-two schemas remained. All had been sent back, rejected, thrown into the wastepaper basket.”38

This scrapping of the Council’s agenda left 2500 bishops in Rome with nothing to talk about. The original agenda had been trashed. The bishops then relied on the liberal theologians at the Council to draft new documents in order to steer the Council away from a traditional framework, and towards a more progressive, ecumenical orientation.39

37. Open Letter to Confused Catholics, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, [Kansas City: Angelus, 1992], p. 102.

38. Ibid., p. 102.

39. Two of the finest books on this subject are The Rhine Flows into the Tiber by Father Ralph Wiltgen, SVD, and Pope John‘s Council by Michael Davies. Also, for even more information that shows that the progressivist takeover of Vatican II was effectively planned prior to the Council, see “The Tiber Flows into the Tiber: Who Was Responsible for the Liberal Hijacking of Vatican II?”, J. Vennari. Two part series, June & July, 2008. (Reprint RP0807-12 available from CFN).

[married21]

Well, I think this is disappointing to learn that there were 1100 “plants” into the priesthood, and then not have anything that says who any of them were. Name some names, or it falls short of credibility.

[married21]

Well, I think this is disappointing to learn that there were 1100 “plants” into the priesthood, and then not have anything that says who any of them were. Name some names, or it falls short of credibility.

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[Domestic Church]

“Name some names, or it falls short of credibility.”

Read Windswept House if you really want to know the ones that rose to the top. There is a name code.

[the invisib1e hand]

Falls short of credibility? Oy. That’s like saying that you don’t believe you’re eating steak if you dont know who cooked it. i.e. the proof is in the pudding.

[the invisib1e hand]

Hunh. Sounds like congress “deliberating” obamacare. Dont get me started on the “Catholic” / Obama axis.

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Here's another winner: Wherever there is Communism there is persecution ... of Catholics by Catholic collaborators!

Worth noting, even though the article doesn't deal with the US because it apparently hasnt become obvious enough that Pelosi, Sebelius, Biden, et all are persecuting Catholics and that Communism has come to the United States government.

[BlackElk]

You forgot to note that Marcel LeFebvre died as an excommunicated revolutionary against legitimate Church authority, a master of blatant disobedience and contempt for the papacy and for the about to be beatified (5/1/11) Pope John Paul II particularly. There are some well-meaning but gullible people who actually believe the schismatic drivel of SSPX and somehow confuse blatant contempt for Church authority for what they hallucinate to be “tradition.” What they should avoid is confusing SSPX with actual Catholicism. Lucifer and Marcel shared the motto: Non Serviam. Fr, Gruner has a lesser but also non-admirable track record of gross disobedience to legitimate Church authority. In what diocese does he claim to be incardinated and what is his status. Last I heard, he had refused his obedience to two dioceses in which he had been incardinated (one in Canada? and one in Italy) because, like the excommunicated Marcel, Gruner just knows better than his superiors what he should be doing as a priest. No mere parish duty or humiliating obedience for Fr. Gruner, vows or no vows. He’s right, the Church is wrong. Full speed ahead! At least, according to Fr, Gruner and other revolutionaries against legitimate Church authority.

[verdugo]

re: You forgot to note that...

This thread is about infiltration into the Church by communists with the intent of destroying the Church from WITHIN.

BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM, the wolves in sheep's clothing, are the infiltrators, that is: "those that detached themselves from antiquity and were seduced by lying novelty," that is, the progressivists, the expounders of liberation theology, the effeminates, the "change everything" revolutionaries, and innovators, the expounders of lying novelties.

Archbishop Lefevbre appointed by Pope John XXIII a member of the Central Preparatory Commission for VatII, the Committee spent two years preparing the schemas for the Council(all scrapped by the progressivsts. See my posting #8). Abp. Lefevbre attended Vatican II as the Apostolic Delegate for West Africa and Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers, he took a leading part in a study group of conservative bishops at the Council which became known as the Coetus Internationalis Patrum. That group opposed the progressivists at Vatican II. Abp. Lefevbre took the greatest care to attach himself to "antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." He was an anti-communist, anti- liberation theology, anti- everything that is opposed to what the church has always taught. BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM.

Those that have eyes to see let them see.

ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH

"What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." (Commonitorium)

[verdugo]

Black Elk wrote: You forgot to note that...

Verdugo responds:

This thread is about infiltration into the Church by communists with the intent of destroying the Church from WITHIN.

BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM, the wolves in sheep's clothing, are the infiltrators, that is: "those that detached themselves from antiquity and were seduced by lying novelty," that is, the progressivists, the expounders of liberation theology, the effeminates, the "change everything" revolutionaries, and innovators, the expounders of lying novelties.

Archbishop Lefevbre appointed by Pope John XXIII a member of the Central Preparatory Commission for VatII, the Committee spent two years preparing the schemas for the Council(all scrapped by the progressivsts. See my posting #8). Abp. Lefevbre attended Vatican II as the Apostolic Delegate for West Africa and Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers, he took a leading part in a study group of conservative bishops at the Council which became known as the Coetus Internationalis Patrum. That group opposed the progressivists at Vatican II. Abp. Lefevbre took the greatest care to attach himself to "antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." He was an anti-communist, anti- liberation theology, anti- everything that is opposed to what the church has always taught. BY THEIR DEEDS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM.

Those that have eyes to see let them see.

ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH

"What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty." (Commonitorium)

[Quix]

MORE END TIMES documentation re the globalists and their plans and achievements.

In this case with the RCC