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Fasting and Abstinence for Catholics in the U.S.


During Lent, Catholics in the United States abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and on all the Fridays of Lent. They fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. 

To abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and all the Fridays of Lent means to not eat meat on those days.  It does not intend the omission of eggs or dairy products.

The required fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday involves eating only one full meal on those days. One or two smaller meals may be taken on those days, but may not total one full meal.  The required fast does not allow eating anything between meals.

"All Catholics who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year

Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance."

- Code of Canon Law, #1252


1 posted on 03/04/2011 11:08:19 PM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 03/04/2011 11:09:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

thank you Salvation.


7 posted on 03/04/2011 11:16:49 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Salvation

Breathing while you are fasting is most important.


11 posted on 03/05/2011 12:16:01 AM PST by allmost
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To: Salvation
Regarding the Catholic one, it is accurately described as far as the volume and abstainng (it is the same as before Vatican II). HOWEVER, the NEW "only two days during all of Lent" makes it a joke of a fast. Let's be honest with ourselves, that's no fast or abstinence. For all intents, Catholics no longer Fast during lent.

Now, most traditionalists SSPX, FSSP, ICK, etc., Fast for all 40 days, according to the pre-Vatican II practice. They also abstain year round on ALL Fridays and some other days, like Ember Days. Traditionalists also fast during Advent.

Also, some Catholics that partake in the wearing of the Brown Scapular, and the Sabateen Priviledge, abstain on Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday YEAR ROUND. I know many people who do this.

"The Liturgical Year" by Abbot Gueranger (http://www.amazon.com/Liturgical-Year-Dom-Prosper-Gueranger/dp/1930278039), (which I highly recomend) a 14-15 volume work which explains the history and mass of every day of the year, also details in it all of the history of fasting in the Catholic Church. Even the fasting that the Catholics did in the 1940's (what traditionalists do today), is nothing compared to what the Church use to do in the past. Catholics never fast on a Sunday, NEVER, for it is a day of celebration!

12 posted on 03/05/2011 12:19:50 AM PST by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: Salvation; kosta50; crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; ...

“I speak not, indeed, of such a fast as most persons keep, but of real fasting; not merely an abstinence from meats; but from sins too.

For the nature of a fast is such, that it does not suffice to deliver those who practice it, unless it be done according to a suitable law. “For the wrestler,” it is said, “is not crowned unless he strive lawfully.”

To the end then, that when we have gone through the labor of fasting, we forfeit not the crown of fasting, we should understand how, and after what manner, it is necessary to conduct this business; since that Pharisee also fasted, but afterwards went down empty, and destitute of the fruit of fasting.

The Publican fasted not; and yet he was accepted in preference to him who had fasted; in order that thou mayest learn that fasting is unprofitable, except all other duties follow with it.

The Ninevites fasted, and won the favor of God.

The Jews fasted too, and profited nothing, nay they departed with blame.

Since then the danger in fasting is so great to those who do not know how they ought to fast, we should learn the laws of this exercise, in order that we may not “run uncertainly,” nor “beat the air,” nor while we are fighting contend with a shadow.

Fasting is a medicine; but a medicine, though it be never so profitable, becomes frequently useless owing to the unskillfulness of him who employs it. For it is necessary to know, moreover, the time when it should be applied, and the requisite quantity of it; and the temperament of body that admits it; and the nature of the country, and the season of the year; and the corresponding diet; as well as various other particulars; any of which, if one overlooks, he will mar all the rest that have been named.

Now if, when the body needs healing, such exactness is required on our part, much more ought we, when our care is about the soul, and we seek to heal the distempers of the mind, to look, and to search into every particular with the utmost accuracy.

I have said these things, not that we may disparage fasting, but that we may honor fasting; for the honor of fasting consists not in abstinence from food, but in withdrawing from sinful practices; since he who limits his fasting only to an abstinence from meats, is one who especially disparages it.

Dost thou fast? Give me proof of it by thy works!

Is it said by what kind of works?

If thou seest a poor man, take pity on him!

If thou seest an enemy, be reconciled to him!

If thou seest a friend gaining honor, envy him not!

If thou seest a handsome woman, pass her by!

For let not the mouth only fast, but also the eye, and ear, and the feet, and the hands, and all the members of our bodies.

Let the hands fast, by being pure from rapine and avarice.

Let the feet fast, by ceasing from running to the unlawful spectacles.

Let the eyes fast, being taught never to fix themselves rudely upon handsome countenances, or to busy themselves with strange beauties.

For looking is the food of the eyes, but if this be such as is unlawful or forbidden, it mars the fast; and upsets the whole safety of the soul; but if it be lawful and safe, it adorns fasting.

For it would be among things the most absurd to abstain from lawful food because of the fast, but with the eyes to touch even what is forbidden. Dost thou not eat flesh? Feed not upon lasciviousness by means of the eyes.

Let the ear fast also. The fasting of the ear consists in refusing to receive evil speakings and calumnies. “Thou shalt not receive a false report,” it says.” +John Chrysostomos, Excerpted from Homily III “Concerning the Statutes”


13 posted on 03/05/2011 3:25:43 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Salvation

“To abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and all the Fridays of Lent means to not eat meat on those days. It does not intend the omission of eggs or dairy products.”

I know it’s a sin to eat meat on Good Friday and Ash Wednesday, but is it a sin to eat meat on the other Fridays in Lent?


20 posted on 03/06/2011 5:06:20 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Salvation
My family and I are new to the eastern orthodox religion but very grateful that we have found our way home. We were roman catholic and only saw the hypocrisy and the divisions that only come from a church that itself has left its first way which was of Christ. I saw the Catholic church as a power miser, only going after those things that give power. I am enjoying the fruits of a beautiful fast that is expected at the Lenten season, in the Orthodox church. We are celebrating as a community for the first time in the unity of Christ. He is truly risen!
When I found how the Roman Church had actually schismed from their true roots, It all made sense to me as to how the other offshoots, baptists, Lutherans, etc. would have come out of them. I am praying that the Western Catholic Church will eventually come to their senses and return home as they should. The great fast is no meat or egg or dairy for forty days.
22 posted on 03/12/2011 7:57:25 PM PST by louisa
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