Posted on 03/04/2011 6:27:07 AM PST by dangus
Very interesting. Thanks, dangus.
Do you still beat your wife?
LOL...written letters and words are visual symbols. Insisting all you want that it is otherwise does not make it so...in fact, most of our letters all started out as visual symbols for animals, tools, objects etc. When you type or write the letters "G-O-D" (or any other word) you are graphically representing a thought or concept. Specifically, when you type the letters "G-O-D" you are forming a "symbol" or icon that all persons literate in your language understand to represent the Divine. No matter how strenuously you object to that, that's exactly what you are doing. Again, I'm not saying you worship the letters "GOD" but am pretty sure you worship the Being to whom those letters refer. Similarly, I'm saying that few people if any actually worship a painting or sculpture of Christ (and I would concur with you that those who do are commiting idolotry) but rather the Being they represent.
You seem to approve of how you visually communicate that thought while objecting to and demeaning the manner in which others do. If you believe that an artist or poet or songwriter's gifts come from God, but their use of their blessings to celebrate Him and compel others to venerate Him should be "hidden under a bushel basket" you might want to see Matthew 5:16.
>> Those are your words, not God’s. God said “graven images” <<
No, God didn’t say “graven images.” King James, A mass-murdering, genocidal fanatic who loved to have homosexual orgies while bathing in animals’ blood said “graven images.” God said, “idols.”
Please see my #65 (again). Apparently you insist on playing God and insisting that you are above every man in your interpretation. I'll not be party to such blasphemy.
Dear goodness? Are you really serious? In hebrew same word for graven images is the same as idols. God clearly defines an idol as something you worship before God. Again, and please answer all these questions, especially this one. In the verse It says "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of ANYTHING in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." Keyword is ANYTHING. Now with that being said, how do you have anything in your house? Seriously. We as humans create things all the time. But, yet, God say's "in the form of ANYTHING". That would null and void everything. Not just a Picture of Jesus... b/c, he says "ANYTHING".
Jesus's earthly dad was a carpenter. Guess he's screwed. No where in the 10 Commandments does it say "Do Not draw/paint/sculpt of Jesus. But for arguments sake, let's say you are right about "Graven Images". It still does not change the fact, that the verse says to not draw/paint/sculpt ANYTHING. Not just Jesus, ANYTHING.
How do you know an artist portraying Christ hasn't been compelled (i.e. "commanded") to do so? Although, since you have held yourself up as the definitive source of this knowledge and the true arbiter of all that is righteous and correct, I suppose you would know.
OK, I concede. Michelangelo was actually in Satan's service when he was spending all those hours crafting the Pieta. God would have been far more pleased with him had he, being in the middle of Renaissance Italy, availed himself of the opportunity to better spend that time vandalizing, pillaging and burning every church, chapel and cathedral that dared display so much as a Crucifix. That indeed would have been far more pleasing to God and put those sinners aright.
Gotcha.
She clearly is a prodigy. But I just get this feeling that the family came up with a marketing gimmick.
1800 for a print???? I don’t have a problem with making money. She should charge whatever she can get...but somehow..it leaves a bad sense when she is roping God into Capitalism ..and becoming one of the richest Teens in America???? Off of GOD and Jesus???
They lived in a 10000 square foot house when the girl disappeared..then magically reappeared. I would love to see the police report on that one. I couldn’t help but think of Balloon Boy.
Supposedly, when the girl is 6 she disappears. Mother calls the State Police. 50 police officers show up to scour the house
GET REAL. I don’t believe for a second that 50 police officers show up. the girl was only missing a few hours
http://www.artakiane.com/library/The%20Westsider%20-%20Vol3,%20Issue1.pdf
I think it is a hoax.
By the way, the famous painting of Jesus “Prince of Peace” is a carpenter who just magically showed up at their door looking for work. He became her model for Jesus.
In the end, I think she has a god given miraculous talent....and her parents exploited it.
She has a blog. Last year she offered to do Soulscapes of your soul for a “reasonable” price. Skyping available so she could see your soul. There hasn’t been another entry on her blog since.
**that one picture looks like Hulk Hogan**
Well, yeah, I guess it does, sorta. The big one looks kinda like Sly Stalone.
The Lord displayed a sense of humor in a few places of the gospels. Maybe some of these paintings humor him as well.
Jesus a Nazarite?
There is nothing in the Word to back that up.
John the baptist’s parents were told to raise John as a Nazarite. Mary and Joseph were told no such thing, as far as I can tell.
Physical reminders of the man Jesus Christ are probably good, but all one needs is the infilling of the Holy Ghost to KNOW he is real. The Lord said that that is what gives the power to be his witness.
Whoa. I’ve seen afrocentric images of Christ before, and some of them were kinda neat, but that is just plain ug.
the question is whether the 2nd commandment is or is not a prohibition against images in places of worship per se. What say you? If you say ‘yes’ then why did God command them to be made? If you say ‘no’ then what is intended by the commandment?
“The normative principle of worship is a Christian theological principle that teaches that worship in the Church can include those elements that are not prohibited by Scripture. The most common traditions using this are Anglican and Lutheran.
The opposing view is the regulative principle of worship which teaches that with regard to worship “whatever is commanded in Scripture by command, precept or example, or which can be deduced by good and necessary consequence from Scripture is required, and that whatever is not commanded or cannot be deduced by good and necessary consequence from the Scripture is prohibited”. This is most often seen in many Presbyterian and Reformed churches.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative_principle_of_worship
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