No offense, Dangus, and I certainly don’t wish to come across as confrontational, but is not this entire matter irrelevant? Jesus’ ‘grandparents’ were not that in the traditional or even genealogical sense since He was divinely conceived. Jesus’ ‘genealogy’ was God. He possessed no traits, or DNA of any human being. Our Blessed Maria was chosen as the woman who would carry Jesus in her womb and give birth to Him, and not to slight the significance of this but her connection to Jesus was entirely emotional, or spiritual, and in no way biological.
... her connection to Jesus was entirely emotional, or spiritual, and in no way biological.
So, Mary wasn't His Mother... according to you. Also, by your thesis, Jesus wasn't fully God and fully man, He was only God. He was not "a man like us in all ways but sin."
Dude, your theology and history is completely screwed up and anti-Biblical. To what church do you belong?
Actually, no, it is VERY relevant. Jesus was the fulfillment of all of the OT promises. If the genealogy had been broken along the way, God would not have fulfilled His promises through the Covenants made with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and David. If there is one thing the Bible tells us in its historical narrative, it's that God fulfills His promises... and that is very relevant to every believer.
>> No offense, Dangus, and I certainly don’t wish to come across as confrontational, but is not this entire matter irrelevant? <<
It’s apologetics, not spirituality. Various sources have long used the divergent genealogies as a basis for denying the historical truthfulness of the bibles. Some of these sources even come from within Christian churches. I’d heard the argument that Luke traced the geneaology through Mary, but have always been reluctant to argue based on it, since it didn’t make complete sense to me intellectually. Contrary to accusations of numerous Freepers, I don’t promote arguments I don’t firmly believe in. (I may speculate about alternative explanations when someone argues that there aren’t alternatives to his assertions.)
***Jesus’ ‘grandparents’ were not that in the traditional or even genealogical sense since He was divinely conceived. Jesus’ ‘genealogy’ was God. He possessed no traits, or DNA of any human being.***
Actually, it does matter. Jesus was fully God, fully man. Had to be to fulfill His divine mission.
No, sorry, that doesn’t compute. Jesus is “true God and true man.” To argue otherwise is some sort of false Manichaeanism. He called himself both Son of God and Son of Man.
There’s a brief discussion here, which I think most Catholics and Protestants can agree with:
http://olrl.org/Lessons/Lesson15.shtml
*** Our Blessed Maria was chosen as the woman who would carry Jesus in her womb and give birth to Him, and not to slight the significance of this but her connection to Jesus was entirely emotional, or spiritual, and in no way biological.***
Sounds a lot like the Gnostic belief that Mary was just the conduit for Jesus, like water through a pipe.