Posted on 03/03/2011 5:37:14 AM PST by verdugo
Rush Limbaugh accuses Obama of 'character assassination'
The president is trying to trick Rush Limbaugh into talking about himself and would rather engage in "character assassination" than debate conservatives in the "Arena of Ideas," the conservative talker charges in an e-mail to POLITICO.
Two days after President Barack Obama labeled Limbaugh and conservative television host Glenn Beck "troublesome" in a CBS interview, Limbaugh says Obama is trying to get him off his game.
"I think the president is trying to distract me, to get me talking about ME on my show instead of talking about him and the regime's agenda. But it won't work. I'm wise to their tactics," he wrote. "I know that a majority of Americans are angry at the regime's (and the Democrats') constant attempts at character assassination of their opposition. They want no part of engaging us in the Arena of Ideas. They seek instead to discredit and marginalize us, and it has gotten old."
Obama's shot at Limbaugh and Beck demonstrates that a long-running White House effort to undermine influential elements of the Republican coalition remains in effect.
Asked generally about the "level of enmity that crosses the airwaves," Obama slammed Limbaugh and Beck by name.
"Well, I think that when you listen to Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, it's pretty apparent, and it's troublesome, but keep in mind that there have been periods in American history where this kind of vitriol comes out," Obama said. "It happens often when you've got an economy that is making people more anxious and people are feeling like there is a lot of change that needs to take place. But that's not the vast majority of Americans. I think the vast majority of Americans know that we're trying hard, that I want what's best for the country."
Democratic strategists say the president can rally his liberal base by taking on icons of the conservative movement and also appeal to independents and moderate Republicans who are turned off by the style — and substance — offered by talk show hosts who run hot.
Though some analysts predict that Obama's most recent remarks will raise Limbaugh's profile, Limbaugh said that's no longer possible.
"How can I possibly be elevated as a voice of the opposition?" he wrote. "I'm already on the top of the mountain, and the regime put me there shortly after they took office."
2. This is not a Religion Forum Topic, and should be in the open Forum
Although this is a secular political article, it clearly demonstrates the subject in which I wish to discuss on this thread, the sad to say COMMON PPRACTICE of many on FR religious forums ( and mind you, I am a traditional Catholic and only debate in Catholic forums) of engaging in “character assassination” rather than debate in the “Arena of Ideas,” ...trying to distract, to get one talking about ME, instead of talking about/in .. Arena of Ideas. They seek instead to discredit and marginalize, and it has gotten old.”
I'm reminded of the ancient call for assassination: "Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?"
.... and thusly, should not be in the Religion forum, no matter what cockamamie point you are trying to make by miscategorizing it.
Wrong title. Wrong category.
See also Unsound Sticks, or, Arguments Catholics Shouldn't Use
Never mind the mote in thy neighbors eyes, care to the beam in thy own.
talking to yourself again?
Yeah, it may “have gotten old”, and it happens all too frequently, and not just in Catholic forums.
It’s a common practice/tactic for those who; are losing the argument, have no legitimate reply, or are just plain stupid.
I call the perpetrator on it and move on. They usually slink away.
Either “man up” and confront them or post only on Caucus threads if folks are upsetting you.
Do not change the article’s title. Add your comments in brackets.
I'm suspicious.
It’s a common practice/tactic for those who; are losing the argument, have no legitimate reply, or are just plain stupid.
That's EXACTLY the conclusion that I came to!
re:I call the perpetrator on it and move on. They usually slink away.
I always call them on it. They eventually slink away, but before that, the next step seems to be that they get COURAGE from calling others like them that "have no legitimate reply, or are just plain stupid".
re: Either “man up” and confront them or post only on Caucus threads if folks are upsetting you.
It is on Caucus or like Caucus threads since I only debate on Catholic subjects with Catholics. There may be borderline discussions like with Catholics who think that other religions are Catholic. so, that does not altogether solve this aberrant childish behavior, as you might of thought.
By the way, no one is upsetting me. If one let's people upset them , then they have lost. Rush Limbaugh is not upset or complaining, neither am I. We are both addressing the issue. "Character assassination" without engaging in the "arena of ideas". This thread is about teaching others how normal debate should be carried on, that character assassination without addressing in "arena of ideas" is wrong, AND like you succinctly concluded :
It’s a common practice/tactic for those who; are losing the argument, have no legitimate reply, or are just plain stupid.
Thank you for your contribution to the discussion, though it was succinct, it says everything.
Can you give some examples of my not engaging in the arena ideas and strictly using “group denunciation”?
This is what this thread is about, speaking the ideas.
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