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1 posted on 02/28/2011 5:35:58 AM PST by verdugo
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Where are the MEN who follow God?


2 posted on 02/28/2011 5:39:35 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Ne Zot! Sensuous cleavage in pants!

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3 posted on 02/28/2011 5:40:24 AM PST by Tax-chick (All the brothers have humongous monsters, and the universe is at peace.)
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The largest number of sex-abuse monsters (those with multiple victims and abuse of the sacraments) entered seminary in the 1940s and 1950s. In Boston, the class of 1960 at the archdiocesan seminary was the worst.

Some sort of reform was obviously necessary.

4 posted on 02/28/2011 5:46:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (House GOP: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.)
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Once again I comment that Traditionalists should thank God for those Roman Catholic chapels and churches that never changed following Vatican II.

Satan is in these Novus Ordo ‘churches’ that look like airplane hangars. where the ‘congregants’ carry on their conversations in loud voices as they know this is not a sanctuary and that nothing important will be happening.

Where’s the confessional? Where’s the tabernacle?

The answer to both is: hidden.

The ‘priest’ is merely the president of the congregation who has abrogated most of his duties to the lay-women who dress like men.


5 posted on 02/28/2011 5:50:17 AM PST by IbJensen (Grab your pitchforks!)
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WHY CATHOLIC MEN (Except for the feelings oriented types) HAVE NEVER BEEN ATTRACTED BY THE WHOLE NEW MASS "SCENE"

"In the United States today, 45 years after Vatican II, 31,000 lay persons plan liturgies, direct the music groups, schedule the lectors and run the education programs for adults, engaged couples and children; four-fifths of these ecclesial ministers are women.

Before Vatican II, most of those jobs did not exist; less than 1 % of these jobs were filled by lay people. (3) Before Vatican II the average parish lay woman were most likely to be found in the Altar Society or Holy Name Society. [Additionally]Today, almost 50 % of all administrative positions in dioceses are held by women. Before Vatican Council II, Catholic men frequented the Sacraments, took family responsibilities seriously and filled the seminaries. After Vatican Council II, the churches emptied, the divorce rate skyrocketed, and the sacristy was overrun with women. A kind of effeminate man attracted by the New Theology entered the seminaries, and the virile ethos of the Church grew fainter and fainter. It is no wonder not only men, but also many women, are leaving the Catholic Church today or no longer assist at Sunday Mass."

6 posted on 02/28/2011 5:53:06 AM PST by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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Isaiah 3:12-13 As for my people, children are there oppressors, and women shall rule over them, O my people, they which lead thee to err, and to destroy the way of they paths. The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.


9 posted on 02/28/2011 5:59:23 AM PST by bibletruth
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There is a very interesting book that has been around for a while called The Feminization of American Culture by Ann Douglas. Professor Douglas brings up some very insightful points about how religion became subjected to feminization in the more affluent era of the mid to late 19th century. Whereas the more visceral Calvinism informed the Protestantism of an earlier era in America, the more passive and feminine Unitarianism favored by the rising class of intellectuals and merchants took hold of the American psyche. It is this feminization that took the masculine God who was worthy of worship and the judge of sinful people and made Him into friendly, middle class uncle. It signaled the beginning of the end for Biblical inerrancy in the main stream Protestant churches. Evidently the Roman Catholic Church has undergone a similar invasion since Vatican II.


10 posted on 02/28/2011 6:12:36 AM PST by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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The article seems to find fault with the modern Mass as a result of Vatican II.

I’m not so sure if it is Vatican II, the misinterpretted implementation of Vatican II, or an aging and shrinking number of priests to perform all of their functions.

All of the above?


17 posted on 02/28/2011 6:34:28 AM PST by kidd
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What is the basis for the thought that altar servers need to be male?

I was an altar server in the 70s. Back then, girls were not allowed. My church tried them for a little while but were quickly told not to use them.

As an altar server in the 70s, I had a lot more functions than what altar servers do today. I held the Lectionary for the priest to read. I participated in the distribution of the Host by holding a crumb catcher under people’s chin. I had many functions for Stations of the Cross and weddings.

Could it be that these functions were eliminated because of female altar servers?


18 posted on 02/28/2011 6:44:25 AM PST by kidd
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“Warning, this post has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with bigotry. All Catholic and Orthodox Catholic posters, as well as all Christians of good will, are advised to avoid such threads as they are here to generate hate, not the love of Christ.”

As Great Lent comes upon us, this is a time to reflect and pray and devote our minds, thoughts and services to God.

19 posted on 02/28/2011 6:45:06 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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21 posted on 02/28/2011 6:48:16 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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In the end he never finds the simple solution to the present-day astonishing crisis of the feminization of the Catholic Church. He fails to see the obvious, that this process is a direct consequence of Vatican Council II.

Or maybe it's a reaction to so many gay priest who basically preached 'forgiveness' without repentance or change ( in short, priests teaching liberal theology - as opposed to Christian theology )...

77 posted on 02/28/2011 2:01:45 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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