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The Feminization of the Catholic Church
Tradition In Action ^
| 2009
| Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Posted on 02/28/2011 5:35:55 AM PST by verdugo
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To: Religion Moderator
Note — this thread has no links, no references. It purports to be a dissertation or something by some Phd and yet there is no way to affirm this or even to identify if we have permission to reprint this on FreeRepublic.com
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posted on
02/28/2011 6:48:16 AM PST
by
Cronos
("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
To: kidd
Catholic men are taught to be wimps. Jesus was a nice guy right?
It starts with a weak father figure who were too weak to truly run a household or limp-wristed schooling. Then the next generation is even weaker than the previous. It takes a massive upheaval to reverse the trend.
Go to any youth group and you'll see, as C.S. Lewis puts it, "Men Without Chests". They think people liking you is more important than people respecting you. If the men are too wussy to be men, women will fill the void. Just look at the new outpouring of female conservatives with more balls than most of the men. When women have to be the men, something is horribly wrong in your culture.
To: miss marmelstein
you’re in luck — with Pope Benedict’s impulse, the Traditionalist mass and much of tradition is coming back. Though to be honest, I don’t see the problem with altar girls..
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posted on
02/28/2011 6:50:21 AM PST
by
Cronos
("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
To: kidd
My husband was an altar boy in the early 60s. His main memory is being clouted on the head ‘cause he goofed up during the Mass. The priests were tough in those days.
To: DarkSavant
Chris Christie is Catholic and he isn't a wimp.
Yes, as Catholics we are probably too nice to folks who attack the Faith, but "feminization"? Naaah.
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:17:55 AM PST
by
Cronos
("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
To: miss marmelstein
when I was an altarboy we had a sacristan who had been around since 1943 and he even bullied the priests who had been altar-boys themselves and remembered old Roger the sacristan telling them to follow decorum!
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:20:23 AM PST
by
Cronos
("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
To: miss marmelstein
The priests were tough in those days.
When I was a kid (50s), we had a parish priest who was a WWII vet and talked to us like we were his troops.
He caught one kid picking his nose and threatened, "If I see you do that again, I'll break off your arm and hit you with the bloody end of it."
They DO NOT make priests like that anymore. LOL ...
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:21:47 AM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: vladimir998; Cronos
Another Schism website.
What do you call a “Catholic” who protests Catholicism?
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:37:04 AM PST
by
netmilsmom
(Happiness is a choice.)
To: netmilsmom; vladimir998
hmmm... a "Catholic" who
protests Catholicism...
hmm....
ooooh, oooh! I get it - a Protestotismist?
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:45:03 AM PST
by
Cronos
("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
To: verdugo
Wow. You are really far off the target with your statements to that poster. Really, really far off.
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:46:53 AM PST
by
coop71
(Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
To: Cronos
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posted on
02/28/2011 7:54:32 AM PST
by
netmilsmom
(Happiness is a choice.)
To: Cronos; Religion Moderator
Poster of thread has history of witholding story sources/hosted links to control debate.
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:04:59 AM PST
by
RBIEL2
To: Religion Moderator; Cronos
ooops looks like situation corrected; my comment is tardy
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:06:37 AM PST
by
RBIEL2
To: sueuprising
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:35:23 AM PST
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
To: Jim Noble
Very good response. But I didn't see the author extolling the Amchurch of the 1940-50’s. I certainly never have extolled it, I agree with what you wrote. While there were effeminates and progressivist before Vatican II (or else there would not have existed any at VatII), what the author is saying, is that Vatican II official opened the door to the effeminates and progressivists TOTAL takeover.
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:40:54 AM PST
by
verdugo
("You can't lie, even to save the World")
To: coop71
Please explain what you mean? I think you misread my posting.
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:43:39 AM PST
by
verdugo
("You can't lie, even to save the World")
To: verdugo; Anoreth
This is a parody, right? (The whole article was a parody, right?)
I was quoting words from the article. If the article is suitable to be on the screen, then so is my comment.
Merciful heavens to Betsy! (Sorry, Betsy ...) I thought *I* lived in a bubble of humorless oversensitivity, but I was so wrong about that.
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:50:44 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(All the brothers have humongous monsters, and the universe is at peace.)
To: verdugo; Tax-chick
Tax Chick is one of our wittiest posters here on Free Republic. I hope my children can gleam some from her. And it is YOUR responsibility to monitor what your children see on the computer, not TC. But you can thank her for growing their vocabulary.
Oh, and Tax Chick has you TOTALLY beat in the kids department.
To: Tax-chick
To: miss marmelstein
I refuse to go to my in-laws Catholic events (Confirmation, etc.) I hear you. Why attend when the disgust and aversion you feel could lead to a weakening of your own faith? In fact, we are prohibited from knowingly placing our faith in jeopardy. I used to stand in the vestibule as sort of a compromise but no more. The angst from even standing 100 yards away got to be too much. And I wasn't far enough away to avoid the assaults of the more aggressive 'peace be with you' operatives.
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posted on
02/28/2011 8:58:38 AM PST
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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