If we can lose our salvation, then our eternal life is not eternal. Who would then qualify? Not the sinner, because a sinner doesn’t follow the path of God’s Plan, he has missed the target. Is it the sinner who returns to God after having lost his salvation? No, because that would require the perfect sacrifice to be offered again. So if it is possible for anybody to lose salvation, nobody will have it because 1) we are all sinners, and 2) since God knew this from eternity past, and if this is what He really meant, then He has been a liar to man all along, making any promise he has given to not be trustworthy.
So who follows and accepts salvation may be lost? Those who lack faith in Christ and His work on the Cross.
I'm sorry, but that is a non-sequitor. The Bible clearly says in Ezekiel 33:12-16 that we can lose our salvation in this life.
God has promised us eternal life
These are not contradictions as the Bible does not contradict itself. Our eternal life "if we endureth to the end" is eternal, as God has promised. Yet Matt 10:22
22And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. |
Cvengr: Who would then qualify? Not the sinner, because a sinner doesnt follow the path of Gods Plan, he has missed the target. Is it the sinner who returns to God after having lost his salvation? --> I'm sorry, cv, but you are mistakenly believing that your works can save you, they can't -- if you work and do not believe, do not have faith, you can't be saved. If you have faith and do not display this in your deeds and works, then, well, demons too have faith, yet they have not good works.
A sinner who returns to God after having lost his salvation can regain this -- remember he does not win his own salvation, he only gets it by believing in Christ who has provided the salvation.
An analogy is a parent freely giving, well, candy to a 2 year old. The 2 year old does not do anything to deserve this, yet gets it from the loving parent. If the 2 year old loses it and does not ask for this again, they have none. If the 2 year old asks for it, he/she gets it again. Our God is a loving God
Cvengr: because that would require the perfect sacrifice to be offered again -- sorry, again a non-sequitor, the perfect one-time sacrifice is done, finished. It's out there, the salvation, the grace, just waiting for us to accept it. If we accept it and later reject it (like the righteous man in Eze 33), God is gracious enough to allow us to come back and re-accept it.
Cvengr: So if it is possible for anybody to lose salvation, nobody will have it because 1) we are all sinners, and 2) since God knew this from eternity past, and if this is what He really meant, then He has been a liar to man all along, making any promise he has given to not be trustworthy.
Yes, we are all sinners and yes, God foreknows all. He knows those who will accept and those who will not, he knows those who will accept and then reject and those who accept-reject and then accept again. This takes away nothing from His omnipotence or omnipresence. This takes away nothing from His freely offered grace of salvation.
God's promise is in Mark 16:16
16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. |
40 For my Fathers will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. |
Cvengr: So who follows and accepts salvation may be lost? Those who lack faith in Christ and His work on the Cross. Not "lack faith", but loses faith --> and remember that faith can be regained, just as the 2 year old can pluck up the courage to ask for more of the freely offered salvation