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To: Natural Law

Never understood why a major fast food chain like McDonalds would not want to cash in and promote fish specials on Fridays during Lent.

These are people that would do anything to make a buck, celebrate any minor movie with a cheap plastic toy tie in, yet they ignore a major chance to market a product that many Christians are limited to eat on a certain day.


2 posted on 02/23/2011 8:56:09 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: icwhatudo
"Never understood why a major fast food chain like McDonalds would not want to cash in and promote fish specials on Fridays during Lent."

Me too. I was introduced to Tuna Pizza in Israel and it is fantastic. A Friday special home delivered would make a lot or Catholic kids happy.

3 posted on 02/23/2011 9:00:45 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: icwhatudo

I did not notice if it’s called a special but in NY tv Mcdonald commercials would show fish sandwhiches during lent or in the store fish sandwiches ads. Someone is Catholic in that company.


10 posted on 02/24/2011 12:39:00 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: icwhatudo

Enlarge By Ernest Coleman, The Cincinnati Enquirer via GNS

Lou Groen invented the Filet-O-Fish sandwich and salvaged sales.

FILET-O-FISH FACTS

• Hawaii is the top state in weekly Filet-O-Fish sales. Ohio is second.
• About 23% of all Filet-O-Fish sandwiches are bought during Lent.
• McDonald’s buys more than 61 million pounds of fish per year for the sandwich in the USA.
• Lou Groen invented the Filet-O-Fish to attract Catholics, but it’s popular among Jews and Muslims whose dietary observances prohibit other McDonald’s fare.
• In addition to Filet-O-Fish, these icons also were developed by McDonald’s franchise owner-operators, not by the central corporation: Big Mac (M.J. Delligatti, Pittsburgh, 1967) and Egg McMuffin (Herb Peterson, Santa Barbara, Calif., 1972).

Sources: McDonald’s, The (Cincinnati) Enquirer research

By Paul Clark, The Cincinnati Enquirer
CINCINNATI — In 1962, Lou Groen was desperate to save his floundering hamburger restaurant, the first McDonald’s in the Cincinnati area.
His problem: His clientele was heavily Roman Catholic. In those days, most Catholics abstained from meat every Friday, as well as during Lent, the 40-day period of repentance that begins this week with Ash Wednesday.

His solution: He created the Filet-O-Fish — a sandwich that saved his restaurant and eventually would be consumed at a rate of 300 million a year.

“Frisch’s (the local Big Boy chain) dominated the market, and they had a very good fish sandwich,” recalled Groen, now 89.

“I was struggling. The crew was my wife, myself and a man named George. I did repairs, swept floors, you name it.

“But that area (where his restaurant was located) was 87% Catholic. On Fridays we only took in about $75 a day,” said Groen, a Catholic himself. “All our customers were going to Frisch’s.

“So I invented my fish sandwich, developed a special batter, made the tartar sauce and took it to headquarters.”

That led to a wager between Groen and McDonald’s chief Ray Kroc, who had his own meatless idea.

“He called his sandwich the Hula Burger,” Groen said. “It was a cold bun and a slice of pineapple and that was it.

“Ray said to me, ‘Well, Lou, I’m going to put your fish sandwich on (a menu) for a Friday. But I’m going to put my special sandwich on, too. Whichever sells the most, that’s the one we’ll go with.’

“Friday came and the word came out. I won hands down. I sold 350 fish sandwiches that day. Ray never did tell me how his sandwich did.”

But the chain made Groen modify the fish recipe.

“I wanted halibut originally,” Groen said. “I was paying $2 a pound for halibut. That sandwich cost me 30 cents apiece to make. They told me it had to sell for 25 cents. I had to fall back on Atlantic cod, a whitefish, and I added a slice of cheese. But my halibut sandwich far outshines that one.”

Groen wasn’t complaining. “My fish sandwich was the first addition ever to McDonald’s original menu,” he said. “It saved my franchise.”

And fed it. By the time he sold his franchise in 1986, Groen owned 43 McDonald’s restaurants in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, about half the number in the region today.

But his prosperity didn’t include a slice of Filet-O-Fish’s national sales.

“Not a penny,” he said. “I made my money by selling the product and being the best operator I could.”

Charles Faulks, operations director for McDonald’s Ohio Region, called Groen’s contributions legendary. “Lou exemplified Ray Kroc’s philosophy that you can succeed if you believe in your brand, treat your people right and give back to your community.”

Groen entered the fast-food business in 1958. One day, while working in his father-in-law’s Cincinnati restaurant, Groen was leafing through Restaurant Management magazine when he spotted a couple of advertisements for franchise opportunities.

“They were tiny little ads,” he said. “One was for McDonald’s 15-cent hamburgers. The other was for Beverly Osborne Chicken Delight. I said to my wife, ‘If we do this, we’ll be eating a lot of these. Would you rather eat hamburgers or chicken?’

“She picked hamburgers.”

When Groen answered the ad, he was told that $950 would buy him exclusive McDonald’s franchise rights in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana and parts of Pennsylvania. “But I didn’t have $950,” he said.

So he invested a couple of hundred dollars in a district franchise that included Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky. He opened his first store in 1959.

So when was the last time he ate a Filet-O-Fish?

“It’s been a while,” he said. “I broke my leg last year, and at age 89 I don’t get out much. But I do love that sandwich.”


11 posted on 02/24/2011 12:41:14 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: icwhatudo

Odd ...McDonald’s around here often run 2 for specials on fish sandwiches for lunch.

BUT....

I’ve really been thinking about this Friday lent thing. I went to a Catholic school so Friday lent has been a longtime tradition in my life.

Our family LOVES fish, clams, shrimp etc. and I look forward in many cases to lent...fish season. It has seemed to me that many Catholics view Lenten Fridays as more a celebration than the penance.

Which, given the state of our country and world, I am wondering if my looking forward is actually counterproductive to the idea of the penance & Friday sacrifice of lent. I am thinking of actually returning to “The Fast & Prayer.”


33 posted on 02/24/2011 8:22:35 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: icwhatudo

Our local McDs does have Friday fish sandwhich specials.


57 posted on 02/24/2011 10:27:08 AM PST by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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