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To: marshmallow
THE NEW BEATIFICATION PROCESS IS A JOKE.

There was not a saint pope for 500 years till Pius X (died 1914). After Vatican II the progressives changed all rules for sainthood. They removed the devils advocate and made just 1 miracle enough for being ranked among the blessed. Not only was the number changed , but the the criteria for judging something miraculous was DILUTED ***. Result - JPII beatified more people than ALL the other popes of 1900+ years put together! No surprise that they beatify JPII. It's a joke.

The progressives wanted one of their own as a Blessed, they made one, JPII, the icon of the post Vatican II religion of the effeminates. The pope that presided over the greatest devastation of the Catholic faithful in the history of mankind. I doubt that 1% of Catholics today really practice the faith. I DOUBT that 1%! He presided over a hierarchy and clergy that homofied the priesthood, and dumbed down the few faithful left that still went to mass.

“In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is king”.

***P.S.- this JPII Sister Marie “miracle” is totally suspect. For one, there was considerable doubt that she even had Parkinson's. Moreover, she did not claim that the cure was instantaneous, the common occurrence for a miracle. She said that she began to feel better some time later, and went back to work. Cures of internal maladies that are hidden from view and whose etiology is uncertain, are often used by shysters and are the favorite of TV evangelists.

3 posted on 02/20/2011 3:57:28 PM PST by verdugo
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To: verdugo

From - Beatification and Canonization - New Advent.org

“Canonization is a precept of the Roman Pontiff commanding public veneration to be paid an individual by the Universal Church.”

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02364b.htm

From the Holy See

“the Roman Pontiff alone is competent to declare a devotion to a Servant of God.” -(Benedict XVI)

LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS BENEDICT XVI
TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE PLENARY SESSION
OF THE CONGREGATION FOR THE CAUSES OF SAINTS

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/letters/2006/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20060424_cause-santi_en.html

The process of the declaration of devotion is always subject to the power and authority of the Holy See.

When we look at the lives of those who have faithfully followed Christ, we are inspired with a new reason for seeking the City that is to come (274) and at the same time we are shown a most safe path by which among the vicissitudes of this world, in keeping with the state in life and condition proper to each of us, we will be able to arrive at perfect union with Christ, that is, perfect holiness. (11*) In the lives of those who, sharing in our humanity, are however more perfectly transformed into the image of Christ,(275) God vividly manifests His presence and His face to men. He speaks to us in them, and gives us a sign of His Kingdom,(12*) to which we are strongly drawn, having so great a cloud of witnesses over us - (Lumen gentium EN 50)

From Lumen Gentium it is clear that God alone makes men and women saints. Only the authority to declare devotion to a servant of outstanding virtue belongs to The Holy See.


14 posted on 02/20/2011 5:05:21 PM PST by Bayard
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To: verdugo
He presided over a hierarchy and clergy that homofied the priesthood, and dumbed down the few faithful left that still went to mass.

Actually, if one looks at the timeline of incidents of clerical abuse over the last half century or so, you'll find that the curve starts to spike dramatically upward between about 1959 and 1970. Most of the clergy responsible for those incidents would have been ordained in the 1950s or earlier, i.e. pre-Vatican II, when all was supposedly hunky-dory in the Catholic world.

In contrast, the curve starts to trend downward around 1980, shortly after JPII was elected.

You're going to be a busy man. As time passes and more miracles attributable to JPII begin to accumulate, you'll really have your work cut out explaining away all of them and pouring cold water on all the reports of vocations arising from his pontificate.

What a sad, negative way to spend one's life.

20 posted on 02/20/2011 8:46:44 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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