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To: verdugo
He presided over a hierarchy and clergy that homofied the priesthood, and dumbed down the few faithful left that still went to mass.

Actually, if one looks at the timeline of incidents of clerical abuse over the last half century or so, you'll find that the curve starts to spike dramatically upward between about 1959 and 1970. Most of the clergy responsible for those incidents would have been ordained in the 1950s or earlier, i.e. pre-Vatican II, when all was supposedly hunky-dory in the Catholic world.

In contrast, the curve starts to trend downward around 1980, shortly after JPII was elected.

You're going to be a busy man. As time passes and more miracles attributable to JPII begin to accumulate, you'll really have your work cut out explaining away all of them and pouring cold water on all the reports of vocations arising from his pontificate.

What a sad, negative way to spend one's life.

20 posted on 02/20/2011 8:46:44 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

You are in denial. He was a pope for 26+ years and removed no clerics and excommunicated no one. People with eyes to see will see the irony of calling him a saint, they already have. Any Catholic who thinks that JPII is a saint, does not know what a saint is.


22 posted on 02/21/2011 6:36:15 AM PST by verdugo
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To: marshmallow

re:You’re going to be a busy man. As time passes and more miracles attributable to JPII begin to accumulate.

Call me when you have ONE real miracle. They had to event one to get him beatified.


23 posted on 02/21/2011 6:41:30 AM PST by verdugo
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