[topcat54]

"If the prophetic calendar had to wait until Israel became a nation again in 1948 or Egypt overthrew its rulers or the Soviet Union fell, then the so-called rapture could not have been imminent before these events took place. It’s the biggest flaw in modern-day prophetic speculation that dispensationalists don’t want to talk about."

[Cronos]

“Egypt overthrew its rulers “ —> which rulers? When the Brits left? Or when Nasser overthrew the king? Or when Sadat was pushed out? Or Mubarak’s exit?

[Wings-n-Wind]

These present-day events are more accurately likened to the onset or increase in "birth pains" of Matthew 24.

While not specifically placed as required pieces of the prophetic puzzle--

It seems there are many prophetic implications and repeated cycles of prophetic fulfillment in play....

Almost as if we are seeing the "setting the stage" and /or "rehearsals" for the events that wlll finally set in motion the "performance" geo-political and military forces leading to the culmination of global history and eventually, The Return.

Ergo --

The high bar of specific Biblical prophetic fulfillments isn't necessarily in place -- in order to correctly discern the times and seasons of the Lord.

Just my humble--

For Gary and the hard work of American Vision
Thanks for all you do....

Blessings...

[mombonn]

Thank you for finding and posting this.

[DannyTN]

definition of "imminent" depends on your perspective. It's written that a 1000 years is as a day with the Lord, so from His perspective, it could still be 2000 years off, and still be "imminent".

It's written that no man knows the day or hour, but Jesus told us to recognize the season. There may well be prophecies like Israel returning as a nation, that precedes the rapture, that may identify the season, but it doesn't identify the day.

That is unlike the Mid-Trib people who believe Jesus returns 3.5 years after the 7 year peace treaty is signed. In such a case, you'd pretty accurately know when Jesus was returning, if you can spot the correct treaty being signed.

[DannyTN]

That Israel would become a nation again is clearly seen in Zech 10-12. Zechariah writing after the Babylonian exile wrote of an exile where Israel would be cast off to far countries and then would be gathered back into the land.

This was unlike the Babylon exile where they were exiled to a single country. The nearly 2000 year exile of Israel fits this. It also fits the prophecy of Lev 26 which states that if Israel was disobedient they would be exiled. And if they repented they would be brought back. And if they didn’t repent, horrible things would happen to them, but eventually they would be brought back anyway because of God’s promises.

Israel remains in an unrepentant state, having refused to recognize the Messiah and God’s plan of salvation.

You can deny the rapture all you want or place it in any time frame you want, but you can’t read Zechariah and not realize that the exile that just ended was prophesied.