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To: topcat54

Very well, let me refine it.

If God is still married to the remenant of the faithful, how can the Lamb marry the Church, as shown in Rev. 19?

You’re theory has the Father married to the Son’s bride. Do I even need to go into how wrong that kind of logic is?


70 posted on 02/07/2011 9:45:29 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs

I’m probably going to regret stepping into this, but ... the Father and the Son are the same. If the Father is married to the Son’s bride, it not only makes sense, it is mandatory.


71 posted on 02/07/2011 9:50:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (BO + MB = BOMB -- The One will make sure they get one.)
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To: paladin1_dcs; RJR_fan
If God is still married to the remenant of the faithful, how can the Lamb marry the Church, as shown in Rev. 19?

God has joined gentiles to the faithful remnant of Israel to produce “one new man.” Unbelief was broken off from the true Israel.

10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh--who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands--
12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation,
15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.
17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near.
18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, (Ephesians 2)

6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,
7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called."
27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be saved. (Romans 9)

Jews and gentiles reconciled into one new man. This is the continuation of faithful Israel. National Israel was a container for the true Israel, the remnant.

You’re theory has the Father married to the Son’s bride.

Actually, no. First of all we are not tri-theists. There are not three Gods in view.

However, what you’ve described sounds similar to the theory of the dispensationalists who had Israel as the wife of the Father in the OT and the Church as the wife of Christ in the NT. Sounds like the Marcion heresy.

God has always had but one true wife, those who placed their faith in God’s salvation by Messiah. Abraham was as much a child of the true Israel as Peter and Paul. This divorce in question had to do with the national/external entity of ancient Israel. It was a way of transition from the old covenant to the new covenant.

74 posted on 02/07/2011 10:03:44 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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