Posted on 01/29/2011 7:06:07 PM PST by Benchim
Salvation has three legs supporting the entire doctrine. Leg 1: The first Leg on the Stool is Belief in Christ. Belief means to steadfastly trust in the fact-- that Jesus is the Son of God. The Greek word is pistevo. "For God so greatly loved the world that He gave up His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).
You will find nothing in the definition requiring "obedience" or "sinless" conduct . This is the foundation of antinomianism. John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?" Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
LEG 2: The second leg is that Christ died and was resurrected to atone for your sins. This in imputed righteousness. Otherwise Christs suffering meant nothing. LEG 3: The third leg which stands the stool is Savlation is a gift- by the grace of God and not as a result of anything you do i.e. "works" except your belief in Christ as the son of God . Ephesians 2 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Via a space alien??
Absolutely and without question.
James is written by the disgruntled brother of Jesus. It is a total contradiction of the Gospel and should be thrown out and has been thrown out by scholars for centuries. James was jealous of Jesus and did everything he could to say he died for nothing.His writings are a joke. Read Jon 3:16 and do it often.
Come on. Argue legalism some other way.
Not going to take the bait.
Too bad for you.
Great. Now you are arguing that Scripture is full of errors and contardictions.
Once one is saved and as their faith increases the natural outcome is “fruit”....Christ changes the heart, mind and soul. One desires to do what is good and right...as He leads and as we let Him live His life thru us.
You can’t seem to get beyond the labels, can you? What is legalism if not the belief that magic words must be uttered to be saved, and no more? Lawyers counsel their clients to utter magic words in court every day. It doesn’t mean the client actually understands what he is uttering.
How could you possibly “understand” or know this?
Understand or know what?
Where in Scripture does it say John 3:16 is better than James 2:24? or Romans 11:22–23?
Seriously, your theology needs to embrace ALL of Scripture, not just the ones your "itching ears" want to hear.
Who says that?
No bait, just facts. Keep away from them at your own peril.
Luke 23:42-43
42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
Jesus hasn’t come in His kingdom. Jesus knew the word for Heaven. He didn’t use it. Paradise isn’t Heaven.
For Christians ignorance is not bliss.
Anyone who says "Once saved, Always saved" makes that case.
Thankfully that's exactly true. Sometimes I just shake my head that my Father in Heaven would love me and want me in heaven despite the absolute worst sinner I know that I am....
Yet it still persists.
I knew you would divert from the topic of the post. So let me refresh your sweet memorey...
Jesus told the thief He would be with Him that very day.....and since it’s written we are immediately in the presence of the Lord at death, of course then so was the thief...and it did not require anything on his part but belief. He acknowleded Christ’s sinlessness...acknowledged his own sinful condition....and then looked to Jesus....simple yes...beautiful..without question.
Why are you contradicting contradictory doctrine!?
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