[marshmallow]

So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

Exactly.

Which is why Catholics esteem her so highly and call her the second Eve. For what Eve destroyed with her disobedience, Mary helped to repair with her "yes", freely given.

Trying to cherry pick another word to replace predestination does not help much

Well then, it's lucky I just posted this thread, isn't it?

[RnMomof7]

I asked.... So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

....You responded Exactly.

..Was Mary predestined?

[RnMomof7]

I am still trying to clarify this in my mind

I asked

So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

You responded

Exactly.
Which is why Catholics esteem her so highly and call her the second Eve. For what Eve destroyed with her disobedience, Mary helped to repair with her "yes", freely given.

So is it then the Catholic position that the salvation of all of humanity, depended on Mary?

[Gamecock]

Momof7: So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

marshmallow Exactly.

Which is why Catholics esteem her so highly and call her the second Eve. For what Eve destroyed with her disobedience, Mary helped to repair with her "yes", freely given.

WOW!

The Creator of all. The almighty, omnipotent God. He who brought all into being with just His will and words! Who would have thought His immutable will could be thwarted by a young Jewish Virgin.

You know what?

The Roman Catholic god is really quite small...