[RnMomof7]

The birth of Jesus was contingent on the "yes" of the Blessed Virgin, freely given. Nobody was railroaded.

So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

The predestination was one of foreknowledge for God sees all things, from all eternity.

Trying to cherry pick another word to replace predestination does not help much

The greek word
proginōskō

1) to have knowledge before hand
2) to foreknow
a) of those whom God elected to salvation
3) to predestinate

[marshmallow]

So if Mary had said no there would have been no Savior?

Exactly.

Which is why Catholics esteem her so highly and call her the second Eve. For what Eve destroyed with her disobedience, Mary helped to repair with her "yes", freely given.

Trying to cherry pick another word to replace predestination does not help much

Well then, it's lucky I just posted this thread, isn't it?