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To: Colofornian

In 1984 my daughter was insistent that we go to the Temple for her marriage. Forget that her non Mormon grand parents and non Mormon friends couldn’t attend.(She too has now left the church)

So I lied to the bishop and the stake president as I knew they would not reject me based on the fact that I knew something about both of them that could be damaging, having been in business in that community. I would certainly not blackmail anybody, however they were both crooks.

Point is, the entire process is a shallow “look at me how righteous I am” process. On Sunday mornings the dummies dress up in their finery and pretend how religious they are. And during the week they lie, cheat and steal in their businesses.

Glad to be an anti, an apostate, an ex and an INMAN.


10 posted on 01/27/2011 4:30:41 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger; FastCoyote
Point is, the entire process is a shallow “look at me how righteous I am” process. On Sunday mornings the dummies dress up in their finery and pretend how religious they are. And during the week they lie, cheat and steal in their businesses.

Fast Coyote made that similar point repeatedly in his Western states business dealings with many Mormons...and he had access to specific info to know...

12 posted on 01/27/2011 4:36:45 PM PST by Colofornian ( Life isn't FAIR!)
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To: Utah Binger
On Sunday mornings the dummies dress up in their finery and pretend how religious they are. And during the week they lie, cheat and steal in their businesses.

So you know my lds family do you?

13 posted on 01/27/2011 4:37:23 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Utah Binger

My parents had some non-LDS friends whose daughter converted to LDS, had a Temple wedding, and, of course, her parents were not allowed to attend.


15 posted on 01/27/2011 4:42:33 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Utah Binger
I knew they would not reject me based on the fact that I knew something about both of them that could be damaging, having been in business in that community. I would certainly not blackmail anybody, however they were both crooks.

'Tis all, it seems a "hide & seek" game...or at least, a "hide & secret" game to many...

About a year ago, I posted this post:
Secret, secret, secret
Fulness of the gospel NOT in the Book of Mormon. Secret to prospects - they'd look in vain for the primary Mormon teachings to be taught there.
Original "old plates" Joseph supposedly found. Secreted away.
The founder, Joseph not telling wife Emma about women he had affairs with (Fanny & others) 1831 & beyond. Secret.
Mormons not putting the polygamy doctrine in writing until the 1850s. Secret.
Bloody victims' clothes & orphans from Mountain Meadows Massacre, 1857. Secret for two years.
Mountain Meadows Massacre culprits. Conspired amongst each other to never tell. Secret.
Mormonism openly false 19th century teachings like Adam-is-god and blood atonement. Unacknowledged as former teachings. They wish these were a secret.
Mormon polygamists hiding out from the feds in 1880s. Secret hideaways.
Lds Plural marriages...at least 262 documented 1890-1910. Secret.

Still today:
Lds temple ceremonies. Secret.
Lds weddings in temples. Secret.
Secret underwear power. Very secret.
Mormons believe thousands of deceased Mormons practicing polygamy in another realm. "Open" Secret.
History not "faith promoting" to Lds church and former leaders. Tendency to tuck away. Secreted away.
fLDS families -- the "living daguerreotype" of what 19th century Mainstream Mormon families were often like -- tucked away in out-of-the-way communities. Treated like the crazy aunt to lock away in the basement closet.

No wonder a BYU history prof wrote a book, "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View." "Magic" is a sub-category of the occult. And what does the word "occult" mean? (Yup, Latin for "hidden" -- as in secret).

16 posted on 01/27/2011 4:42:41 PM PST by Colofornian ( Life isn't FAIR!)
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To: Utah Binger

35 posted on 01/27/2011 5:34:31 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Utah Binger; colorcountry; reaganaut; greyfoxx39

“So I lied to the bishop and the stake president as I knew they would not reject me based on the fact that I knew something about both of them that could be damaging, having been in business in that community. I would certainly not blackmail anybody, however they were both crooks.”

But, but, but... mormons are such nice people!!!

“Glad to be an anti, an apostate, an ex and an INMAN.”

You and colorcountry and reaganaut and greyfox all add authenticity in these conversations. I’m even gladder that you are all flyin’ inmans!


38 posted on 01/27/2011 5:50:11 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Utah Binger
Glad to be an anti, an apostate, an ex and an INMAN.

I'll bet Groucho would be accepted in the INMAN crowd as well!

44 posted on 01/27/2011 6:04:16 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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