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1 posted on 01/27/2011 12:28:26 PM PST by topcat54
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Good grief. Perversion is twice the power of evil, not love.

And there is nothing “orthodox” about this rabbi.


2 posted on 01/27/2011 12:33:02 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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So basically, the Rabbi hung the guy out to dry without giving him any real direction on what the scriptures say regarding Greenberg’s situation. Useless.


4 posted on 01/27/2011 12:37:14 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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5 posted on 01/27/2011 12:39:53 PM PST by PGR88
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"My dear one, my friend, you have twice the power of love," the aged rabbi told him. "Use it carefully." Speaking of which, continued the horny aged rabbi, are you available Friday night to see a show, dinner?

You are kind of cute.

Twice the power of lechery.

6 posted on 01/27/2011 12:50:36 PM PST by lbryce
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Ping for later


7 posted on 01/27/2011 1:08:00 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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It can damage your bum!


8 posted on 01/27/2011 1:19:23 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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Rabbi Eliashev is one of a number of aged, reclusive rabbis who are slandered with false quotes by secular news media. I will furnish an update.


9 posted on 01/27/2011 1:41:18 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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This is a rough day to be a Jew. First the phony “Jews” who attacked Glenn Beck, and now the phony JINO fag trying to rationalize his perversions instead of trying to get help for them.


11 posted on 01/27/2011 1:57:13 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3927063,00.html

...Three anti-gay protests held in Jerusalem to counter Thursday’s Pride Parade...

...Another protest was being held at Shabbat Square, next to the haredi neighborhood of Mea Shearim, at the behest of Lithuanian Rabbi Yosef Elyashiv...


15 posted on 01/27/2011 2:15:58 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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Greenberg notes that Eliashiv’s comment was not meant to endorse homosexuality, nor to imply that there is no conflict between homosexuality and Orthodox Judaism (the vast majority of Orthodox sages and laypeople believe there is). On the contrary, the point of the story, and the significance of Eliashiv’s reported response, is that it is possible for religious Jews to have compassion and empathy for Jews struggling to remain frum and who have homosexual urges.

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Steven_Greenberg_%28rabbi%29


20 posted on 01/27/2011 3:12:57 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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Steven Greenberg was a 20-year-old Orthodox rabbinic student from Ohio, studying in Jerusalem, when he realized his affections were "ripping me apart." So he visited a sage, an esteemed interpreter of Jewish law. "Master, I am attracted to both men and women," he told Rabbi Yosef Sholom Eliashiv. "What shall I do?" The ultra-Orthodox Eliashiv's answer came as a surprise. "My dear one, my friend, you have twice the power of love," the aged rabbi told him. "Use it carefully." Stunned, Greenberg beseeched him to elaborate. But Eliashiv simply smiled and replied, "There is nothing more to say."

I assume that if Magic Johnson (who admitted to 300-500 sexual partners a year, even while married) asked a similar question, he would be told, "My dear one, my friend, you have hundreds of times the power of love. Use it generously."

Apparently religious scholars now consult the ACLU and Dem Party guidelines rather than scripture. It's sad that they have lost so much. I would have told this gay student (and Magic) that God gives each of us strengths and temptations, and that we must use the one and resist the other. Given this kid's lack of insight, I would have been quite specific on which is which.

21 posted on 01/27/2011 3:19:56 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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Placemark for pingout.

Orthodox? No, extra perverted.


22 posted on 01/27/2011 3:43:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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you have twice the power of love," the aged rabbi told him. "Use it carefully."

Giving the rabbi the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he is reminding the gay guy that he still has the power to love a woman.

That's the way I took it.

27 posted on 01/27/2011 4:04:25 PM PST by zeebee
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There is no such person as a practicing homosexual Torah
observant (”Orthodox”) rabbi, no matter what some may
say. I personally doubt the report this person gives of
his meeting with the older rabbi in the story, whose name
I won’t further associate with this topic.


28 posted on 01/27/2011 4:23:00 PM PST by cycjec
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I believe the Talmud has a place where it says if a person cannot stop his impulse to sin, he should hide his face and go to another city where he is not known. That way, at least the scandal to his family is limited.


31 posted on 01/27/2011 11:14:36 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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I imagine there are false teachers among the Jews as there are among the Christians, the news media will use the false teachers in their war against God and their fight for anti God socialism.


32 posted on 01/29/2011 6:15:00 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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