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Similarities between Mormonism and Scientology
epologetics.org via alma.edu ^ | Dec. 23, 2007

Posted on 01/22/2011 2:19:40 PM PST by Colofornian

* Origins

o Based on entirely unevidenced stories

o Doctrines created and evolved over time, sometimes changing

* Founders

o Known for their extreme desire for wealth

o Known for telling stories and lies

o Convicted and imprisoned for illegal activities

o Died during their trouble with the law

* Legal troubles

o Involved in many illegal activities, in many cases as part of official organization doctrine and practices

o Support destruction of outsiders, especially apostates (blood atonement, shunning, "fair game")

o Legal troubles led to changes in doctrine (at least on the surface, note polygamy and "fair game")

* Teachings

o Pre- and post-mortal existence

o Eternal progression (godhood, clear thetan)

o Only way to know truth is to experience it yourself

o Christianity, Bible only partly true

o Focus on thriving and happiness in present life rather than the afterlife or eternal life

o "Salvation" by works

o Give "milk" instead of "meat"

o Official endorsement of lying about or avoiding discussion of controversial doctrines, especially origin of man and key figures (Heavenly Father, Xenu, spirit children, thetans, etc)

o Levels can be achieved (Operating Thetan levels, temple Mormons, eternal progression, different kingdoms)

o Resistance is dismissed as proof/evidence of validity

* Behavior

o Persecution complex

o Label and treat opposition as evil enemies ("Antis", "Suppressive Persons")


TOPICS: Apologetics; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: inman; lds; mormon; scientology; similarities
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To: Paragon Defender
As I have said repeatedly, we have no issue with any of the scriptures or leaders being quoted. But in context and not misrepresented.

A rational person would SHOW them IN context and the 'misrepresented' things would be pointed out.

When you find the time to DO that; then your whine might stand a chance of being listened to.

'Til then; your are nothing but a mere ACCUSER: with NO facts to back up what your mouth is saying.

81 posted on 01/23/2011 7:17:13 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender

OK, smith’s lying and false revelations are a non-issue.

In 1844 smith taught -“We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see.”

Smith disagreed with the bom Moroni 8:18. For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all
eternity.

The man who ‘communed with Jehovah’ apparently can’t figure out his ‘god’.


82 posted on 01/23/2011 7:17:22 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender
Did you see the “but” part?

Yes.

Please quit showing yours so much.

83 posted on 01/23/2011 7:18:06 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator

This link goes to Jahovah Witness.

did you not at one time the title has to match the link?


84 posted on 01/23/2011 7:18:38 PM PST by restornu (The Lord knowsl the hearts and minds of all and who has clean hands...)
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You have selected a link to an external website. In a few moments you will be redirected to http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/jehovahswitnesses.html


85 posted on 01/23/2011 7:20:29 PM PST by restornu (The Lord knowsl the hearts and minds of all and who has clean hands...)
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To: restornu; Religion Moderator

You are mistaken resty - it goes to a site comparing lds to scientology just as the title indicates.


86 posted on 01/23/2011 7:21:49 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
You are mistaken resty

Surely NOT!!!

88 posted on 01/23/2011 7:23:32 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I’m not mistaken and definitely not shirley.


89 posted on 01/23/2011 7:25:33 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Actually; that's where it takes me!!

epologetics.org

Jehovah's Witnesses


90 posted on 01/23/2011 7:29:01 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla

THIS is the link you want!!

http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/mormonismscientology.html


91 posted on 01/23/2011 7:30:49 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla; Elsie

But, But, But....Orange joo hugh and peachful?


92 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:17 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Paragon Defender; Elsie

Elsie shows the real so called wantabe Chirstian true self in this post 87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2661622/posts?page=87#87


93 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:30 PM PST by restornu (The Lord knowsl the hearts and minds of all and who has clean hands...)
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To: Paragon Defender

When you say christian are you talking about christians who believe in a created jesus or Christians who believe in an eternal Christ.
lds teach a created jesus the Biblical Jesus is eternal.
So PD which Jesus do yo believe in?


94 posted on 01/23/2011 7:33:52 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Elsie; restornu; Religion Moderator

Hmmmm, I was looking at the link in post 1, not the title thread.


95 posted on 01/23/2011 7:33:57 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu
Elsie shows the real so called wantabe Chirstian true self in this post 87

As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Galatians 5:12

96 posted on 01/23/2011 7:35:17 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Elsie shows the real so called wantabe Chirstian true self in this post 87

Are you perfectly flawless in ALL your posting resty? Pride?

97 posted on 01/23/2011 7:35:20 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu; Elsie

Sorry my beloved little Resty, you miss the point once again. Keep trying because at some point in the next twenty years or so you might figure it out. We still love hearing from you though.


98 posted on 01/23/2011 7:38:39 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: restornu; Paragon Defender

Good catch on the thread link problem!

(See PD...

THAT’s how you are supposed to point out problems you find!!)


99 posted on 01/23/2011 7:38:45 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender; Godzilla
So PD are you saying that the words of lds teachings are a yawn, or untrue or what. PD you state that they have been addressed a thousand time yet here are the words.......verbatim. Why are these words a yawn, why are these words misrepresented? It is interesting that when the words of your text are reveled you dismiss them. What is it that you believe that lds teaches?
100 posted on 01/23/2011 7:39:00 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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