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To: American Constitutionalist

I need to straighten you out a little on some of what you said here.

Yes, God is going to send a strong delusion. We’re not sure what it will be yet, but we know that it’s so strong that even the elect are likely to stumble if they’re not rooted deeply in the faith.

Yes, the AC is against Christ. Yes, he will set himself up as the Messiah, just like he did before.

Yes, the AC will perform miracles and deceive many.

The text does not, however, say that the AC will persecute Christians. The text that you’re referring to is Daniel 11 and is referring to how the AC persecutes those who “...do know their God...”

Normally I would agree with you on this point, but given that it’s set in the Tribulation, I’m not sure that this isn’t a reference to the Jews.


135 posted on 01/26/2011 8:10:36 PM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs
" Yes, God is going to send a strong delusion. We’re not sure what it will be yet, but we know that it’s so strong that even the elect are likely to stumble if they’re not rooted deeply in the faith. "

I know some have problems with the KJV, however, I am not a KJV only, I read other versions of the Bible.
However, that text that you refer to, is says " IF it were possible " that the elect would be deceived.
It does not say that it will, or shall, or that there is a good chance, it says, IF it were possible.
That leaves a lot of room for doubt.
Could the writer Mark by writing between the lines actually say that those who are his elect, that it is a impossibility for those who hear Jesus Christ's voice to be deceived ? those whom Jesus said that the father has placed into his hands, and that no one will be able to pluck them from his hands.
Mark 13:22 ...
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.

John 10:27
New International Version (©1984) My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

English Standard Version (©2001) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
King James Bible My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

His elect, his own, his children, his chosen will not hear the voice of another, only the voice of Jesus Christ.
136 posted on 01/27/2011 11:45:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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