To: paladin1_dcs
" Yes, God is going to send a strong delusion. Were not sure what it will be yet, but we know that its so strong that even the elect are likely to stumble if theyre not rooted deeply in the faith. "
I know some have problems with the KJV, however, I am not a KJV only, I read other versions of the Bible.
However, that text that you refer to, is says " IF it were possible " that the elect would be deceived.
It does not say that it will, or shall, or that there is a good chance, it says, IF it were possible.
That leaves a lot of room for doubt.
Could the writer Mark by writing between the lines actually say that those who are his elect, that it is a impossibility for those who hear Jesus Christ's voice to be deceived ? those whom Jesus said that the father has placed into his hands, and that no one will be able to pluck them from his hands.
Mark 13:22 ...
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.
John 10:27
New International Version (©1984) My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
English Standard Version (©2001) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
King James Bible My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
His elect, his own, his children, his chosen will not hear the voice of another, only the voice of Jesus Christ.
To: American Constitutionalist
I also am not a KJV only guy, although I do prefer it for day to day reading. That being said, I suspect that we’re on the same page here, as all I’m saying is that there will be a great delusion in that day and unless you have something to guide you (Holy Spirit), you’re not going to have a chance to see through it.
The reason that I say that it may be possible for the elect to be deceived is because of how easy it is, even as a Christian, to not hear what God’s Spirit is saying to you due to other influences in your life. In my mind, I see it much like being hard of hearing or distracted. If you have something else in your life that’s yammering for your attention, it’s easy to miss the Spirit’s guidance. That’s the whole reason I believe that we all, as believers, need to be deeply rooted and accustomed to hearing from God and obeying His will. There’s coming a time in the very near future that our lives are going to depend on it.
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