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To: caww; Houghton M.
Salvation is or not received this side of death.

And St Paul testifies so. But he also testifies of the purifying fire in I Cor 3:13-15. If you choose not to buy what St Paul says, though, that's your business.

7 posted on 01/17/2011 4:53:16 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley
And St Paul testifies so. But he also testifies of the purifying fire

Either Christ's death and ressurection paid "in full" for our forgiveness or not. Can;t have it both ways...otherwise His death was in vain.

8 posted on 01/17/2011 5:03:02 AM PST by caww
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To: markomalley

Purgatory? I do not think so. Brings to mind the time of crucifixion, and Jesus speaks to one of the thieves on the cross beside him:

42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

I think it is telling the use of the word “Today”, not “next week”, not “soon”, not “I’ll get back to you after your stay in purgatory”.

Purgatory - Just another man-made piece of ‘religion’.


9 posted on 01/17/2011 5:05:23 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: markomalley; caww; Houghton M.; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...

Paul’s the hero now? Not the goat?

What about when he says....?

Ephesians 2:1-10 1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved— 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Seems to me that the RC church pronounced anathemas on people who believe that. That’s part of what got Luther in so much trouble with it.


26 posted on 01/17/2011 5:19:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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