Paul’s the hero now? Not the goat?
What about when he says....?
Ephesians 2:1-10 1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Seems to me that the RC church pronounced anathemas on people who believe that. That’s part of what got Luther in so much trouble with it.
Did they not once accuse us of placing Paul above Jesus? I guess they’re arguments shift with the direction of the wind!
“But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Absolutely. As a Catholic I believe this.
Don’t waste your time. I’ve provided you with the Scriptures. Sayuncledave has provided a far more comprehensive list of the Scriptures.
If you don’t choose to believe the Word of God, that’s your business. But don’t count on me to stick around and argue with somebody who’s already convinced him/herself that he/she is right, regardless of what the Scriptures actually say.
Endless arguments are just not worth the bandwidth.
I know that both you two will want to have the last word, so go for it. But if you want to have an endless argument, I don’t plan to entertain your wishes. I’d rather spend my time doing something at least a little bit profitable.
God Bless!