Don’t waste your time. I’ve provided you with the Scriptures. Sayuncledave has provided a far more comprehensive list of the Scriptures.
If you don’t choose to believe the Word of God, that’s your business. But don’t count on me to stick around and argue with somebody who’s already convinced him/herself that he/she is right, regardless of what the Scriptures actually say.
Endless arguments are just not worth the bandwidth.
I know that both you two will want to have the last word, so go for it. But if you want to have an endless argument, I don’t plan to entertain your wishes. I’d rather spend my time doing something at least a little bit profitable.
God Bless!
I believe that salvation is by grace through faith, not of works so that no one can boast.
What I don’t believe is all the extraneous nonsense that has been added to Scripture and outside Scripture since then.
The opinions of those whom the RC church considers church *fathers* is irrelevant to the truth of God’s Word. Any doctrine built on them is built on shifting sand.
Appealing to the *traditions* that Paul passed on to the believers does not give anyone, then or now, license to fabricate tales of what may have happened that nobody can verify or disprove and demand that people accept them as truth.
If Catholics want to believe them, that’s their prerogative, but they have no business making unsubstantiated claims about the veracity of it and demanding he acceptance of it by others who have not placed themselves under the authority of Rome.
Catholics can follow their leaders into error if they want, but shouldn’t be criticizing others for not following them off that spiritual cliff.
“If you don’t choose to believe the Word of God, that’s your business. But don’t count on me to stick around and argue with somebody who’s already convinced him/herself that he/she is right, regardless of what the Scriptures actually say.”
Actually, it IS the Word of God that is being believed when the falsehood of “purgatory’ is denied! The twisting of 1 Cor. 3:15 to fit the Roman Church’s “doctrine” does not truth make by any stretch.
If “purgatory” existed, there would be plain teaching about it from God’s Word, wouldn’t you think? No, no, no... not what you’re going to quote, but PLAIN TEACHING...maybe from Christ? We know about salvation, justification, sanctification — all clearly taught and exegetically provable. Not so with “purgatory.”
So if you wish to do something at least a little bit profitable, try reading the truth of God’s Word and see past the falsehood of the Roman Church.
God bless...
Hoss
The Pope wrote.......”In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (cf. Lk 16:19-31), Jesus admonishes us through the image of a soul destroyed by arrogance and opulence, who has created an impassable chasm between himself and the poor man; the chasm of being trapped within material pleasures; the chasm of forgetting the other, of incapacity to love, which then becomes a burning and unquenchable thirst. We must note that in this parable Jesus is not referring to the final destiny after the Last Judgement, but ................is taking up a notion found, inter alia, in early Judaism, namely that of an intermediate state between death and resurrection, a state in which the final sentence is yet to be pronounced..........”
Well we know Lazurus didn’t get out of his place of torment....But where’s the record of any who have been sent to purgatory? It would seem if the gulf which was “fixed’ between the two was a place... was purgatory... we.d find warning or comfort for such a place as well. But there’s nothing written further.?????
So the catholics borrowed from Judaism about purgatory...that seems strange to borrow from Judaism....if it was an issue why didn’t the diciples talk about this...and teach about purgatory as a place? After all Jesus spoke about Heaven...Hell...so why no mention of this?