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To: Cvengr; xone
Finally, note in the Gospels itself that Jesus says in John 15:2
He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit
and John 15:6
If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
and John 15:10:
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love,

note -- IF you keep, you WILL REMAIN, otherwise...

And Revelations 22:19 God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.
3,351 posted on 02/08/2011 1:50:42 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The problem with such an interpretation is that every sin removes us from Him, and every man is a sinner, even after faith in Christ. There is only one sacrifice, so if it were possible to lose salvation, even after one sin, the group of humans who are saved would only have one member, namely Christ.

On the contrary, it is possible to be saved as a believer, and upon sin after salvation, we simply are removed from fellowship with Him. That post-salvation sin is then forgiven after we face God in repentance, and confess the sin to Him per 1st John 1:9.

He provides life in the spirit and when we fall out of fellowship, we might be acting soulishly, but not spiritually.

If we keep His commands, we remain in His love.


3,355 posted on 02/08/2011 7:42:33 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cronos
Sorry -- and I realize it is shallow and petty of me to react so -- but I find it curiously difficult to endue with gravitas the pontifications of one who multiplies The Revelation of John.
3,360 posted on 02/09/2011 5:17:59 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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