[MarkBsnr]

The only problem with your position is that this is from the Reformed early Anglican position. Not the Lutheran one.

Apparently you're ignorant of the fact that the 39 Articles are the Anglican confession, which I posted.

Earlier, you tried to make the point that Luther believed in double predestination. My point was that Luther never did. It was brewed in Calvin's cauldron, not Luther's. Early Anglicans drank that brew - including the ones who helped settle the US. Within a century, all that poison started to leave the system, which brings us to the point in the US where there are so few actual Calvinists, finding data on their numbers is increasingly difficult.

[Cronos]

Mark: Earlier, you tried to make the point that Luther believed in double predestination. My point was that Luther never did. It was brewed in Calvin's cauldron, not Luther's.

Let's ask a lutheran -- xzins, did Luther believe in double-predestination?

I know that The LCMS website confirms that it does not believe that Scripture teaches a predestination to damnation: God desires all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:3-4).) and Dr. Eck things that this is evidence that the liberal church teaching of free will has infected the Lutherans, too, in contradiction to what Martin Luther taught from Scripture.

[Cronos]

Mark: Earlier, you tried to make the point that Luther believed in double predestination. My point was that Luther never did. It was brewed in Calvin's cauldron, not Luther's.

Let's ask a lutheran -- xzins, did Luther believe in double-predestination?

I know that The LCMS website confirms that it does not believe that Scripture teaches a predestination to damnation: God desires all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:3-4).) and Dr. Eck says that this is evidence that the liberal church teaching of free will has infected the Lutherans, too, in contradiction to what Martin Luther taught from Scripture.