The RCC has it’s roots in the demonic - that’s a given. But didn’t realize they would be so bold as to warn their members that it didn’t matter - just lie down and accept it.
Can we conclude every Catholic has no problem serving satan if they stay w/the RCC?
Your shriveled heart has no appreciation for hyperbole. St. Catherine of Siena was one of the most audacious papal critics in history. Like St. Paul, she succeeded in convincing the pope to make far-reaching and necessary reforms.
The Reformation is the tool of the devil, not the Catholic Church. Look at all of the direct results of the Reformation - the Anglicans, Methodists, Presbyterians, and so on. Any of them retaining anything more than vestiges of Christianity? No. The Church goes back to Christ, which is more than any of the johnny come latelies can claim.
Can we conclude every Catholic has no problem serving satan if they stay w/the RCC?
Since satan's enemy is the Church of Jesus Christ on Earth, it would be idiotic to say that Catholics serve satan within the Church.
No, I would not come to that conclusion because I am quite sure that most everywhere there are genuine born-again believers in Jesus Christ. I believe those that are truly in Christ will know the difference because of the presence of the Holy Spirit within them. What is shocking is that some, out of a misguided sense of total obedience, will follow him right into the pit of hell. I pray that those who sincerely seek God's truth will find it and not fall prey to the devil's wiles.
“Can we conclude every Catholic has no problem serving satan if they stay w/the RCC?”
In all the time I have been reading this forum, I have wondered if someone would one day come along with a comment like this; a comment that directly connects the individual Catholic with “serving satan” simply by being a member of the Catholic Church.
pnsn has done it with this “conclusion” offered in question form.
Yes, the religion forum guidelines does allow a poster to write about a particular profession of faith in very inflammatory words-—as long as those words are not directed at the individual.
Yet-—even those who may not necessarily be “thin-skinned’ could easily and logically perceive that when such style and language is directed at a particular religious profession (in this case Catholic) that it has its impression and impact on any person of that faith.
But now-—”if every Catholic has no problem serving satan if they stay w/the RCC”—now, it is pointed directly at the individual Catholic.
In other words—don’t we Catholics realize that if we remain Catholic we are serving satan? So we have no problem with that? If we don’t come out and be saved, aren’t we serving satan? And isn’t that the ultimate apostasy and blasphemy and falling away into hell—to serve satan?
This is why I have increasingly found that coming to this forum is to know that unless I stay on the devotional and prayer threads (or Catholic Caucus threads) that I am just being thin-skinned to be on another thread where the on-going themes are all that is wrong with Catholicism, if I find it objectionable and if I recoil from it.
There are some here whose posting history is almost exclusively to denounce, deride, denigrate and deplore anything and all things Catholic. The subjective, anecdotal “all Catholics are....”(fill in the blanks) posts are offered again and again and again.
Popes are called Nazis—or Marxists—whichever fits the current thread theme. The 98.5 priests who have been faithful servants are marked and categorized wholly and unjustly as evil predators and as practitioners of “craft”. We are group-identified as morally lax, indifferent and/or arrogant—all this by limited and personal judgments.
Catholic beliefs and practices are called blasphemous and from the pit of hell-—addressed to Catholics on this forum who practice the Catholic faith -—and we are not to take it personally?—we who are practicing Catholics?
We who truly practice our faith know what it is like to live in our own parishes, to have relationships with our own parish priests, to have communio with our fellow Catholics, to know that it isn’t true that we “don’t crack our Bibles” because we know about our parish Bible study classes and our small communities that meet in homes and our growing number of lay communities that are affiliated with religious orders.
We know our daily Masses in every parish have at least 100 people every morning to participate in Mass, bringing their books with them that contain the Bible readings for all the Masses in the given year. We know of the parishes in our urban areas that hold Masses at noon where many people come on their lunch hour to go to Mass. They know of the parishes where there is not only a morning Mass but an early evening Mass, where people can stop for Mass on their way home from work. There are are often over 100 people there.
They know that quite a few parishes have chapels for adoration that are open 24 hours a day and are never empty, not even in the midnight hours. These chapels have been in existence for many, many years.
They know that many parishes have groups that meet during the week to pray together.
We are not seen. We are not known. We are not very visible to those who don’t know about us. But we are there.
There are also many good Catholics who have come and gone on this forum, who found that they could do more for their Faith by not spending much time at the keyboard; they found that it served no good purpose to explain and defend when explanations and legitimate defenses were not the agenda; the agenda is to denounce Catholicism—period.
“The RCC has it’s (sic) roots in the demonic”.
Is this truth because you say it?
I very much miss some of those Catholics who are no longer here, but I understand why. I am there now myself. Those Catholic FReepers were good people, sincere people, conservative people; they were/are people who deserve the admonition of Peter 2:17, “you must respect the person of every man”.
I also miss the presence of some of the thoughtful, courteous Protestants—men/women of good will who I see hardly ever post here anymore.
So, pnsn, I think your question (which I have offered at the top of my post here) is quite direct: “can we conclude every Catholic has no problem serving satan if they stay w/the RCC?”
I, as a Catholic, have given my life to the Lord Jesus. I know He is my Savior, my Redeemer and that in His Cross I have salvation. I acknowledge all that is offered in the “little Gospel” (Luke 1:68-79) by Zachariah; that I have “knowledge of salvation by the forgiveness of my sins”
There are a lot of Catholics who, like me, would say the same.
What are you to do about us, your brothers/sisters in Christ Jesus, pnsn?
RM — now in this post, pnsm has made a false allegation. If my earlier statements likening metmom’s group to Mormons was pulled, then this too ought to be pulled.