[Dr. Eckleburg]

if free will does exist, then us being instruments of God...

lol. Double predestination means we are instruments of God.

Neither you nor I nor anyone here can open Kosta's eyes. That's the work of the Holy Spirit.

Our job is to preach the Gospel to all men, confident that those who have received new ears and new eyes from God will know the truth and believe.

"The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them." -- Proverbs 20:12

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"Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." -- John 6:65

[Cronos]

Dr. E: Neither you nor I nor anyone here can open Kosta's eyes. That's the work of the Holy Spirit.

See, caww -- now this is Kosta's point in On the other hand, if someone's opinions can make someone lose or find faith, then it is man, not God, who determines other man's salvation or perdition, which is not what Christians believe. Rather, they would say it is God's will. What do you say? Who determines if you should believe, God or man? --> if we take the hyper-Calvinist view, as represented by Dr. E's post here, then there is no point in preaching, teaching, spreading the Good News. ooops, wait a minute, Jesus Himself said to spread the Good News.

So it seems that calvinism denies Christ's words...

And if one takes Dr. E's point of view, then Kosta's statement is a Calvinist statement.

[MarkBsnr]

lol. Double predestination means we are instruments of God.

Based upon the postings of many here, I hope that He has a surplus of hand sanitizer.

Our job is to preach the Gospel to all men, confident that those who have received new ears and new eyes from God will know the truth and believe.

The only Gospel that the Presbyterians preach is that of Paul and Isaiah. I note a considerable lack of Christ in your Christianity.