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To: Colofornian; Paragon Defender; aMorePerfectUnion
"I sustain the prophet because he is the Lord's chosen" [Earlier post by PD]

You have been given all you need, numerous times, to find out this truth for yourself. The rest is up to you. Don’t be lazy. Don’t be hard headed or hard hearted. You would LOVE to know the truth in all things right? [PD]

(So we're to believe the Lord was locked into choosing a man with a Mormon ID & the oldest birthdate among certain elderly men with Mormon IDs because a Web site or two says so????) [My last post]

One more thought or two, PD: I guess, at least we're starting to see a glimpse of the Mormon hierarchy moving at a snail's pace toward a paperless trail, eh?

I mean with your e-links & all to Web sites that say: "Accept the man with the whitest hair as 'prophet'"...we'd be in just turrible shape without all that!

So: When can we see the rest of Lds hierarchy go paperless?

I mean, right now the Mormon god is totally locked into the deepest of paper trail avalanches that determine...
...which man he picks as "prophet" (a calendar date declaring the oldest man)...
...who gets to spend eternity with him (a subjective one-man temple recommend consent form from someone way down the Lds hierarchical ladder)...
...who gets to become a god (a subjective one-man temple recommend consent form from someone way down the Lds hierarchical ladder)...
...and genealogical paper trail obstacles which determine which dead men & women get necro-baptized by proxy so they can get out of spirit prison quicker!

And that last paper blizzard is a doosy!

I mean, just consider what those 11 dozen Mormon temples are up against:

Chapter 34 of the published Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph F. Smith:

Not a soul that has ever lived and died from off the face of this earth shall escape a chance to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ. If they receive it and obey it, the ordinances of the gospel will be performed for and in their behalf, by their kindred, or their posterity in some generation of time after them, so that every law and every requirement of the gospel of Jesus Christ shall be carried out, and the promises and requirements fulfilled for the salvation of the living and also for the salvation of the dead. (Original citation: “Latter-day Saints Follow Teachings of the Savior,” Scrap Book of Mormon Literature, 2 vols. (n.d.), 2:561–62.)

That’s why the mainstream Lds curricula book, Gospel Principles, “Jesus has provided for EVERYONE to hear the gospel, whether on earth of after death.” Gospel Principles, 1997, p. 104

Well, imagine that: Despite the fact that the vast majority of Dark Ages & before will never have their paper trail -- their genealogical records found -- how can the Lds church turn around and say this is MANDATED for EVERY spirit before they can be judged?

Joseph Smith taught that "ALL those who have not had an opportunity of hearing the Gospel, and being administered unto by an inspired man in the flesh, MUST have it hereafter, BEFORE they can be finally judged. (Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph Smith, p. 471)

So there ya go...No final judgment, says Joe Smith, til they've had an opportunity to greet Mormon missionaries bringing them glad tidings of necro-baptism in the afterlife! Yet no glad-tidings of greetings minus that handy-dandy birth & death doc...tell us, PD, how "fair" that is for people who lived in a paperless or very-difficult-to-acquire paper portions of history?

(PD, are your absolutely sure ya don't want that gator habitat we were discussing earlier? Prime time real estate, ya know!)

Well, there ya go...better get your 11 dozen Lds temples 'round the world crackin' round the clock, PD...Lds "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith said a while back:

“The work of saving the dead has practically been reserved for the dispensation of the fullness of times, when the Lord shall restore all things. It is, therefore, the duty of the Latter-day Saints to see that it is accomplished. WE cannot do it all at once, but will have the 1,000 years of the millennium to do it in. In that time the work must be done in behalf of the dead of the previous 6,000 years, for all who need it.” Joseph Fielding Smith (a different Joseph F. Smith than above), Doctrines of Salvation 2:166

OR PD, you could recognize that there is no godhood, no eternal life, no prophet-pickin', or salvation to be had in what your "paper status" is!

To again paraphrase Jesus, he told the Jews of his day that here they searched the Scriptures 'cause they thought in them was eternal life; and yet Jesus said the written Word was there to testify of the Living Word -- Jesus Christ! [see John 5:39]

245 posted on 01/13/2011 5:37:22 PM PST by Colofornian ( Our Eternal Life is in the Living Word; not an Lds temple rec/genealogy & calendar paper trail!)
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To: Colofornian

Your obsession blinds you to basic concepts.

“(So we’re to believe the Lord was locked into choosing a man with a Mormon ID & the oldest birthdate among certain elderly men with Mormon IDs because a Web site or two says so????)”

The Lord chooses his Prophets and they are in the right place at the right time for him and us. Exactly how he arranges for this to be done, is beyond us and I am not privy to it. This is really not that hard to grasp. (If one isn’t obsessed with looking for any perceived fault that is.)

Your other new focus about paperwork is beyond silly. Just because you don’t know or understand how we will know of all the people who have ever lived doesn’t mean we won’t. The Lord will provide. Everyone will have a fair chance.

Yet another much ado about nothing by the anti-Mormon propaganda gang. Convince yourselves there is an issue where there is not.


250 posted on 01/13/2011 7:24:15 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Colofornian
 

Well, imagine that: Despite the fact that the vast majority of Dark Ages & before will never have their paper trail -- their genealogical records found -- how can the Lds church turn around and say this is MANDATED for EVERY spirit before they can be judged?


You foolish, Hateful BIGOTS!
 
Have you STILL not realized that OUR god is a god of REVELATION?
 
He WILL make these names available to us, somehow, in due time.   After all, we have the Golden Plates; right?
 
 
 Wait; let me re-state that.)

259 posted on 01/14/2011 4:32:02 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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