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To: ArrogantBustard; TSgt

>> Another thing I’d like is for folks to be honest and admit that the Church is cleaning out the filth, <<

I just found out how in utter denial folks are around here about there being a problem at all in Calvinist churches. “No, that can’t happen HERE. We ELECT our church leaders.” Even though the churches steadfastly refuse to create a database of perps, because that might increase the denomination’s legal responsibility. Even though the churches (typically) do look at credentials, which means that the issuing seminaries COULD revoke the credentials. Even though the congregations typically dismiss the perpetrators WITHOUT filing any reports (because then they’d have to make their case, which would require an investigation, which would turn up other stuff.

The Baptist and Presbyterian churches have largely avoided the lawsuits not by having fewer perps, but by making sure that they can’t be held accountable for the actions of the perps. It’s only through surveys conducted by their INSURANCE COMPANIES that we find out the problem is comparably widespread.


108 posted on 01/06/2011 5:58:20 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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To: dangus; ArrogantBustard
I just found out how in utter denial folks are around here about there being a problem at all in Calvinist churches. “No, that can’t happen HERE. We ELECT our church leaders.” Even though the churches steadfastly refuse to create a database of perps, because that might increase the denomination’s legal responsibility. Even though the churches (typically) do look at credentials, which means that the issuing seminaries COULD revoke the credentials. Even though the congregations typically dismiss the perpetrators WITHOUT filing any reports (because then they’d have to make their case, which would require an investigation, which would turn up other stuff. The Baptist and Presbyterian churches have largely avoided the lawsuits not by having fewer perps, but by making sure that they can’t be held accountable for the actions of the perps. It’s only through surveys conducted by their INSURANCE COMPANIES that we find out the problem is comparably widespread.

Typical FRoman Catholic diversion, "everyone rapes children." Abuse is wrong regardless of where it happens, covering it up is even worse. This isn't about Catholic vs. other religions. It's about the cover-up and general apathetic response to abuse by the Catholic church.
109 posted on 01/06/2011 6:17:14 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: dangus; TSgt; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
I just found out how in utter denial folks are around here about there being a problem at all in Calvinist churches. “No, that can’t happen HERE. We ELECT our church leaders.” Even though the churches steadfastly refuse to create a database of perps, because that might increase the denomination’s legal responsibility.

OK, so how do you know what the *real* scope of the *problem* is in Calvinist churches is if there's no database.

Maybe there's no database because there's no one in the Calvinist churches to be on it.

Again, it's too funny that Catholics complain about other churches doing the very thing they excuse in their own church.

120 posted on 01/06/2011 10:29:06 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dangus; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; TSgt

Your post is so full of inaccuracies on Reformed church polity that, well, you really have no idea what you are talking about.


122 posted on 01/07/2011 3:11:45 AM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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