Posted on 01/04/2011 1:06:16 PM PST by ADSUM
Letter from Archbishop Jerome Listecki, Milwaukee
You got that wrong big time! Anyone with reading comprehension can see that - typical of Catholics to ignore what was said. They ignore HIS WORD - so anything else is expected.
So quit obfuscating and obscuring it.
I'm sick and tired of Catholic apologists attempting to water down the abuse as homosexual behavior and not child rape.
I'm sick and tired of protestant propagandists misrepresenting what Catholic apologists are doing. Nobody is "watering it down". That's (apparently, since you said it) your interpretation. YOU ARE WRONG. We are properly identifying the problem. If the problem is not properly identified, it cannot be solved. Your actions, feeble though they be, serve to OBSCURE the problem and PREVENT a solution. By interfering (however feebly) with the solution, YOU HAVE BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM.
81% of victims were male and 19% female.
And around 1% to 2% of the general population is homosexual. By your own testimony, this problem is overwhelmingly HOMOSEXUAL. WHY do you cover for the homosexuals???
True authority is founded in credibility.
God has credibility.
A Marine Corps sergeant with twenty years of service has credibility.
But a child raping bishop has no credibility and only a damned fool would recognize such a POS as having any authority.
You got that wrong big time!
You invert the meaning of the post, suggest that the Church will actually condone faggotry like many protestant entities have done, and the tell me I've got it wrong????
Your posts are absurd, false, distorted, and deceptive. Whether that is deliberate or not is between you and God. I'm not a mind reader, so I cannot say. May God abundantly bless you with every Grace.
By the way, God recognizes credibility, too.
Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much. (Luke 16:10)
I’m guessing Luke would’ve made a pretty bad Catholic.
A Marine Corps sergeant with twenty years of service has credibility
Not necessarily, and certainly not outside his very limited field of expertise.
But a child raping bishop has no credibility
Granted, but personal credibility is not the foundation of authority so
only a damned fool would recognize such a POS as having any authority.
is false.
I never said otherwise.
Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much etc.
But this has nothing necessarily to do with having authority. It may have something to do with the advisability of investing someone with authority, but not with his actually having the authority once so invested.
I’m guessing
That's usually a mistake.
Why do you cover for pedophiles?
The problem is child rape by pedophile Catholic clergy.
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge this?
Your hatred of homosexuals is noted, why don’t you direct that hatred toward child rapists?
There is no distinction in the gravity of the mortal sins these “priests” committed while forcing themselves on innocent, naive Catholic boys, whether the children were 6 or 16.
I despise the people (usually Church hierarchy and lawyers) who invented and use the term “ephebophile” to confuse people and to distract them from the primary issue, which is this:
En masse, Catholic priests have been raping boys for at least 50 years and probably much longer!
In sum, you recognize the potential authority of any end of criminal over you so long as they’re called ‘Father, Monsignor, Bishop, Cardinal’.
So noted.
I don't. Ever.
The problem is child rape by pedophile Catholic clergy.
The problem is homosexual child rape by homosexual Catholic clergy, who were admitted into ministry in violation of instructions from the Vatican that homosexual men were NOT to be admitted to seminary or ordained.
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge this? Why do you persistently obscure significant aspects of the problem?
Your hatred of homosexuals is noted, why don’t you direct that hatred toward child rapists?
Once again, I am interested in this problem actually being solved. Unless and until we can acknowledge (and you seem oddly resistant to doing so) that this problem was overwhelmingly one of HOMOSEXUAL child rape, it will not be solved. Do you not want the problem to be solved? Do you want homosexual men to continue entering the priesthood and defiling the Church? Do you want homosexual men to continue abusing the priesthood as a vehicle for raping children?
ROFL!!!!!
Wow ... this, right after Post #88, in which our intrepid Sergeant asks:
The problem is child rape by pedophile Catholic clergy. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge this?
Pot. Kettle. Black.
You back the rhetoric down a notch, TSGT, and I'll be glad to do the same.
Wrong. Again.
That is a common rhetorical device which suggests that a thing is not (or at least highly unlikely) going to happen. Were you honestly unaware of that? Can you honestly say that you have never seen that expression before on this very forum?
Wow, you actually referred to it as child rape.
That’s a good first step in acknowledging the evil.
What do I want? I want the Catholic church to stop covering for pedophiles, implement and maintain a GLOBAL zero tolerance policy toward sex abuse and remove all leadership that had a hand in the abuse cover-up starting with Law and Mahony.
Or is that too much to ask?
Catholics speaking about “ honesty “ is too funny!
Get the pennies ready and keep supporting those priests and your church to cover the sins and crimes against young boys. The RCC can always count on their robot subjects.
Or if that’s too much to read - you can change the subject to the UN or abortion.
Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
Wow, you finally read something I wrote. Congratulations!
That’s a good first step in acknowledging the evil.
Dude, I've been "acknowledging the evil" and actually working (in real life) to oppose it for longer than you've been contributing to this forum. Spare me the sanctimony.
What do I want? I want the Catholic church to stop covering for pedophiles, implement and maintain a GLOBAL zero tolerance policy toward sex abuse and remove all leadership that had a hand in the abuse cover-up starting with Law and Mahony.
Nice. I want to restore the Inquisition and root out ALL the perverts, not just the pedophiles. I don't know why your objectives are so limited. I want folks to look at the Church and ask "Why can't the rest of society cleanse itself of filth the way those Catholics have?"
Another thing I'd like is for folks to be honest and admit that the Church is cleaning out the filth, even if it is going slower than some of us wish.
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