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Here Come The Anglicans!
The Catholic Knight ^ | 1/2/11

Posted on 01/03/2011 8:17:08 AM PST by marshmallow

(American Catholic Magazine) - The 1230 Mass today at London's Westminster Cathedral looked like any other. But for the hint in the booklet for the feast of Mary, Mother of God, that after the homily would be a "Rite of reception and confirmation", there was nothing at all to indicate the significance of what was to happen. The celebrant, an auxiliary bishop of Westminster, Alan Hopes, said nothing at the start of Mass, and it wasn't until the end of a lengthy homily on Mary as Theotokos, or God-bearer, and the controversies of the fourth-century Council of Nicea which led to this Feast, that Bishop Hopes mentioned that they would be receiving some former members of the Church of England into full communion. They included, he said, three former bishops and their relatives, as well as three Anglican nuns. It would have been hard, if you had just dropped into the Cathedral for Mass, to understand the significance of what was happening.There was nobody around to explain that these are the founding members of the world's first Ordinariate, the scheme created by Pope Benedict to allow for the corporate reception of Anglicans...

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THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT: This new way of being Catholic is going to be a hit in North America, and it's something that many Roman Catholics will identify with. It's extremely traditional, yet extremely practical at the same time. Yes, married men can become priests within the Anglican ordinariates, and it has been made clear that this provision is perpetual. When asked "how long" the Anglican Catholics will be permitted to retain married priests, one Vatican CDF official responded "we'll let you know in a couple hundred years."

Naturally, the Anglican ordinariates are initially designed to accommodate Traditional Anglicans and Anglican Use Catholics, however, the Apostolic Constitution (Anglicanorum Coetibus) is an "open invitation" to all Christians of various denominations, as well as regular Roman Catholics too, if they feel drawn to the Anglican (as opposed to strictly Roman) tradition.

Let me clarify some things here. Practically speaking, Anglican Catholic tradition is so "Catholic" in practice, that it often puts general Roman Catholicism to shame. The Anglican Catholic tradition is part of the Roman Rite. It is, shall we say, a subset or variation of Roman Catholicism. Historically, Rome has always allowed these sorts of things, but this is perhaps the largest exception ever permitted. Anglican Catholics are Roman Catholics, but they have an extra character which comes from the English tradition. Those within the Anglican ordinariates are in full apostolic union with the pope of Rome. The are 100% Catholic, just as regular Roman Catholics are 100% Catholic. Anglican Catholics can lawfully receive communion in any Roman Catholic parish. Likewise, Roman Catholics can lawfully receive communion in any Anglican Catholic parish, and that leads us to an interesting proposition.

Many Roman Catholics are dissatisfied with the current Novus Ordo culture that surrounds the typical celebration of the Novus Ordo ("new order" or "modern vernacular") mass. This is because in the Western world, particularly in English-speaking countries, there has been a tendency to banalize (scale down) the mass to the everyday common culture. Language became remedial (though soon to be improved), celebrations boring, and historic Catholic traditions have been dispensed. The high-church Catholicism of yesteryear is gone. The high altars have been torn down. The canopies were eliminated, and the altar rails have completely disappeared. The statues and icons have been reduced to a minimum. The Catholic parishes of today are barely recognizable from those of ages past. Altar servers once played an essential role in the mass. Today they sit aside and perform only occasional functions. The priest no longer celebrates facing the Lord, but instead the altar has been turned into a common table with the priest facing the people, in what has become something like a performance. Communion is no longer received on the tongue while kneeling. Instead communicants stand and receive the Holy Eucharist on their hands (a dispensation that Rome can revoke at any time). Even worse, many liturgical "experts" have taken it upon themselves to innovate the mass, to "spice it up" a little. They've brought in pop music, with drums and guitars, turning the Catholic mass into something that highly resembles a Protestant service. A whole lot of Catholics are frustrated with this, and have been for some years. Many more young Catholics are for the first time discovering that there is more to their faith than what typically passes for Catholicism in their local parish. They admire the beauty and solemnity found in the Traditional Latin Mass (Tridentine or Extraordinary Form) but find the language barrier difficult to overcome. If only such traditional Catholic worship could be found in the English language.

So enters the Anglican Catholic parishes. They are very traditional, and foster a form of Roman Catholic worship that is beautiful and solemn. The Anglican Catholic mass is perhaps the closest thing to the Traditional Latin Mass one will ever see in English. Not only is it celebrated in English, but High English at that, which is both dignified and beautiful. All of the elements of Traditional Catholicism are present; the high altars, altar rails, iconography, traditional English hymns, chants, priests facing the Lord, communion on the tongue while kneeling, women who veil in the presence of the Lord, and altar servers that actually have an essential role in the liturgy.

In this current Novus Ordo culture, Anglican Catholic worship is sure to attract a lot of Roman Catholics frustrated with the banal and innovative celebrations common in today's world. Rome is okay with that. The invitation of Anglicanorum Coetibus is open, and if some Roman Catholics feel more comfortable worshiping in Anglican Catholic parishes, that's okay, and Rome has certainly foreseen this. In fact, I would dare say Rome is counting on it!

You see Pope Benedict XVI has initiated what many have called the "reform of the reform" of the Roman Rite and the Second Vatican Council. To accomplish this, he has initiated a threefold plan. First, he has restored the Traditional Latin Mass with his motu proprio entitled Summorum Pontificum. This gives all priests, everywhere, the right to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass of their own accord, if they are competent to do so. They may celebrate such masses privately as well as publicly. Second, he is reforming the Novus Ordo mass, slowly and carefully, both through example and edict. The first major change Catholics in North America will notice over the next year will be the reform of the English translation of the mass. Because the current translation (1971 to 2011) is so remedial that it doesn't even capture the meaning of the original Latin text, Catholics in North America are in for some startling changes just in the language alone, and the pope hasn't even begun to reform the order of liturgy yet. Third and finally, he has created the Apostolic Constitution for Groups of Anglicans (Anglicanorum Coetibus) which is an open door for Protestant converts directly into Traditional Catholicism with an English flare. It is also a refuge for Roman Catholics who are sick and tired of the current Novus Ordo culture.

Traditional Catholics of the Latin persuasion should keep in mind that Traditional Anglican Catholics are their natural allies in the reform of the reform. Historically speaking, Anglican Use parishes have been very friendly to the Traditional Latin Mass and Traditional Anglican churches have been known to celebrate the Tridentine liturgy. There is definitely going to be some crossover between the Traditional Latin and Anglican Catholic parishes. This two is inevitable and should be embraced by both parties.

Of course there is also the issue of married clergy. Let me elaborate. The Catholic Church has always allowed married priests. Let me repeat that. The Catholic Church has ALWAYS allowed married priests. However, it has at times restricted the priesthood to unmarried celibate men, and this is the case for the general Roman Rite. The Roman Rite priesthood was restricted to celibate men in 1123 AD, but this only pertained to the Roman Rite. The Eastern Rites were excluded from this, and in fact, married men are continually ordained in Eastern Catholic churches to this very day. In recent times, Rome has also made an exception for married Protestant clergy who wish to convert and be ordained priests, as well as those of the Anglican tradition. Clerical celibacy is not a Church doctrine. It is merely a discipline of the Church, which Rome can amend or rescind at any time. For now, Rome has seen fit to keep celibacy in the general Roman Rite, however Rome reserves the right to make exceptions, and the Anglican ordinariate is one such exception. The one thing Rome wants to make sure doesn't happen is that married men from the general Roman Rite don't take advantage of one of these exceptions and change rites exclusively for the reason of finding a "backdoor" into the Catholic priesthood. This is why Rome screens every married candidate for the priesthood on a case by case basis.

However, for those Roman Catholics who are simply eager to escape the banal innovations of the Novus Ordo culture, a safe refuge of traditional Catholicism awaits them in the Anglican Catholic parishes. They may become members of such parishes simply by attending mass regularly, and if so inclined, they may go through the customary process of transferring parish membership. All children baptized in these parishes will become part of the ordinariate, and male children will be eligible for the priesthood, even after marriage, with the customary training and review.

In the current Novus Ordo culture, it is only natural to expect a growing number of Catholics to cross over to either Latin Traditionalism (via the Traditional Latin Mass) or English Traditionalism (via the Anglican ordinariates). IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. The only question is how much and how many? This will continue until the general Roman Rite parishes return to their historic tradition. Until then, it is likely these Anglican Catholic parishes will grow far beyond what anybody expects in North America, the British Isles and the rest of the English-speaking world.

I should also point out that the ordinariates will not be limited to the English-speaking world, as Traditional Anglicanism can be found in such places as Latin America, Africa and India. Anglican mass is celebrated in the vernacular languages of those areas as well. Likewise, a large percentage of these will be entering the ordinariates too. What we have here is the makings of a whole new rite within the Catholic Church, though it is not officially a rite yet, and Anglican Catholic priests are competent to celebrate both the Roman and Anglican form of the mass. Popularity of the Anglican ordinariates in non-English countries remains to be seen, but it will be something to watch as it develops.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant; Worship
KEYWORDS: anglican; anglicanism; catholic

1 posted on 01/03/2011 8:17:08 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; BenKenobi

Ping!


2 posted on 01/03/2011 8:17:47 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

I think allowing such a broad permission of ordaining married men as priests in perpetuity is going to create a LOT of problems and is ill-advised IMHO.

IIRC in the Orthoodox churches married men may be ordained as priests but never as bishops. And if an unmarried man is ordained a priest then he may not marry thereafter.

Do these same regulations apply to the new Anglican Ordinariate?


3 posted on 01/03/2011 8:23:46 AM PST by jtal
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To: marshmallow

Interesting. Bookmark for later.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 8:27:25 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: marshmallow

And what about the gay situation? In Boston the Anglican’s are marrying them. I don’t see how that is ‘so Catholic’.


5 posted on 01/03/2011 8:32:11 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: jtal
Do these same regulations apply to the new Anglican Ordinariate?

Yes. Although the "Ordinary" of the Ordinariate does not have to be a bishop so you could have a married man as ordinary who would function, in some respects, like a bishop but would not be a bishop.

6 posted on 01/03/2011 8:38:09 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: marshmallow
Here Come The Anglicans!

Look out, they're bringing casserole!

7 posted on 01/03/2011 8:39:52 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Obviously you do NOT know us nor have you been to an Anglican covered dish dinner. We are NOT known for casseroles or jello salads unless you consider tomato aspic a jello salad. lol


8 posted on 01/03/2011 8:45:11 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Beowulf9
And what about the gay situation? In Boston the Anglican’s are marrying them. I don’t see how that is ‘so Catholic’.

Those aren't the Anglicans who are coming! The ones who are converting are getting away from things like gay marriage and female bishops!

9 posted on 01/03/2011 8:48:09 AM PST by maryz
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To: marshmallow

**Here Come The Anglicans!**

And I pray that we will all welcome them warmly. They have some excellent music. Much better that OCP!


10 posted on 01/03/2011 9:03:56 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trad_anglican

Thanks for the clarification - that is very reassuring. I didn’t know what the Ordinariate was going to do with all of those married bishops coming over. That would be a real problem IMHO, though it would help unity with traditional Anglicans it would create real problems with Orthodox.

And, more importantly, be a serious break with Sacred Tradition.

I am looking forward to visiting a Ordinariate mass once this gets rolling.


11 posted on 01/03/2011 9:15:10 AM PST by jtal
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To: jtal
I think allowing such a broad permission of ordaining married men as priests in perpetuity is going to create a LOT of problems and is ill-advised IMHO.

Currently, 21 of the 22 Churches sui juris which comprise the Catholic Church, ordain, as a norm, married men.

12 posted on 01/03/2011 9:48:06 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Well as I said in a later post, as long as the Ordinariate follows the rules that the Orthodox Churches (and the 21 Churches you reference) do then I don’t have a problem. (As though anyone is concerned with my opinion. :-))

There is a difference however in that the Anglicans broke off from the Latin Rite church and therefore should be, IMHO, more closely held to Latin Rite rules vs. the other churches which are of more ancient origin.

I do anticipate that the Anglicans may feel some chafing being under Roman administration. I pray that they bear it with humility and prayer, just as we Latins have endured the nonsense of the last 40 years.


13 posted on 01/03/2011 9:53:37 AM PST by jtal
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To: marshmallow
As a recently-converted long-time Anglican who has happily joined a Roman Catholic parish, I sincerely hope the ordinariate(s) will keep the best of both the Anglican and Roman Catholic traditions and not degenerate into emphasizing the worst. It should be carefully approached as the “win/win” proposition that it has all the potential to become.

Among the better traditions in the Anglican church are its music and its often more accurate and generally more poetic translations to English of the Latin mass. Among its worst are the ordination of women and homosexuals and its shoulder-shrugging attitude toward sin.

Anyone who senses a barrier to communing with God without a homosexual, woman, or married priest to interpret the gospels and dispense the sacraments should first sample the unbelievably extensive number of sects, cults, covens and such from which he/she/it is free to choose.

From what I understand, there is plenty of room in the pews of such unorthodox institutions. No need to use the ordinariate(s) as an excuse to track mud or bring either cacophonies or apostasies into Our Lord's Church or its Apostolic succession.

14 posted on 01/03/2011 10:19:52 AM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: jtal

Yes. Bishops cannot marry, and priests can be married, but they cannot marry.


15 posted on 01/03/2011 12:15:34 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: Beowulf9

“And what about the gay situation? In Boston the Anglican’s are marrying them. I don’t see how that is ‘so Catholic’.”

Those are the episcopalians. The Ordinariate is for those who are fleeing this corruption, who wish for a Trinitarian High Mass in English rather than Latin.

Now they can have their cake and eat it too, in reception with the Catholic church. They are a part of us and we of them.


16 posted on 01/03/2011 12:17:14 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: Mobties

Well as a fellow Catholic refugee ex-Anglican, I say welcome!

I myself, am not a member of the ordinariate, and I probably won’t ever be one. I’m quite happy with my Roman Rite. That being said, I am very pleased with Papa Benedict.


17 posted on 01/03/2011 12:19:36 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: jtal

Welcome! I hope you find what you are looking for.


18 posted on 01/03/2011 12:21:45 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: BenKenobi
Thank you. And “welcome” yourself.

I'm very happy in the better place I've found. I suspect that as American ordinariates begin to form there's apt to be a dangerous amount of the kind of innovative tweaking that got TEC and other sects into the disaster in which they now wallow. I hope not but it is difficult to imagine the same people who sat politely in the pews from the ‘seventies until now, and followed like sheep as their parishes descended into apostasy, schism, and bankruptcy somehow summoning up new fixedness of purpose and resolve to remain orthodox. If they do hold fast to the Faith and subordinate their pride to the will of the Church it may well be the miracle for which the papacy of Benedict XVI will be remembered and celebrated.

19 posted on 01/03/2011 3:24:04 PM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: Mobties

Oh, it’s guaranteed that this will be long remembered.

It’s essentially a recognition by the Church that English is a legitimate liturgical language, in and of itself.

As for theological experimentation, I’m actually less worried about it in the ordinariates than with the Roman Rite. The Roman Rite is the big target, not the ordinariates. The media is going to stop caring about the ordinariates when they realize that the ordinariates are subordinated. Their whole existance affirms the primacy of the Pope.

The real revolutionary argument that will be made? Why cannot we bring the Patriarch back in the fold too. Oh I’m certain we are in for a bombshell and that it is not far off.

Then the temple will be built. Maybe in my lifetime. Never dreamed the ordinariate would happen so quickly.

They cannot change the Catholic church by attacking the ordinariate.


20 posted on 01/03/2011 4:12:36 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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