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To: Religion Moderator

Was I wrong was not John Lee the rogue Mormon 9/11 compared to radical Muslims 9/11 but painted all the Mormons with that brush by the antis LDS?

So by your view this should never be compared towards LDS ever again!

Thank you!


1,785 posted on 01/05/2011 8:23:04 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

BBL


1,786 posted on 01/05/2011 8:24:12 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

Actually resty,

John D Lee acted in concert with every LDS preisthood holder in the Iron Mission of Southern Utah when he murdered 120 Christian men, women and children.

He just happens to be the only one convicted, but several other men were charged and disappeared before they came to trial.

Your ignorance of facts is showing.


1,791 posted on 01/05/2011 8:37:11 AM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: restornu
I notice you brought up Mormon and Muslim.

Joseph Smith aligned himself with Mohammed (the guy that started Islam):

Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]
Here is another interesting claim by Smith:
“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4]
It seems he is saying he did something that even Jesus couldn't do.

Here are the sources:

[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”
And
[4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.

Pretty well verified. What are your thoughts?


1,797 posted on 01/05/2011 9:01:06 AM PST by Syncro
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To: restornu
I said that you should expect such comparisons on "open" Religion Forum threads.

When such a comparison is made to an individual Freeper, personally, then it crosses the line because it is "making it personal."

I also said that when your correspondent is throwing spitwads it means he has no ammunition and you can declare a "win" and walk away.

1,823 posted on 01/05/2011 9:39:17 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: restornu

Was I wrong was not John Lee the rogue Mormon
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No John Lee was not a “rogue” mormon...

Thats like saying the Moslems of 9/11 were just radical or rogue Moslems...

John Lee was a normal “good” obedient mormon in high and trusted leadership under orders from Brigham Young his adoptive father “to use up the Gentiles” “Blood atonement”

Brigham Young sent his mormons, his Danite thugs to murder those innocent people,,,men, women, children and babes in arms...

The mormons stole everything, even the bloody clothes off the naked bodies of their victims...

Brifhan Youn g later drove around in a fancy carfriage that was stolen from the wagon train...

and the mormons stole 17 young children, kiddenapped them and refuserd to give them back...

The US army had to go in 2 years later to rescue them from the mormons...

the children were half starved and sick and neglected and abused but the criminal Brigham young demanded $10,000 (1859 money) in ransom to get them back...

The bottom line with the business of mormonism has always been money...


1,917 posted on 01/05/2011 10:45:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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