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Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender
All you need to know about mormonism is here:
The BEST deal is if Romney decides to run again. He will need to give an hours-long speech on Joe Smith and all he believes.
It will finally be the end to any mormon cultist running for any political office, anywhere. Thank you.
Mormon leadership will never agree to that. They are crawling in bed with the Islamic leadership worldwide.
So bigoted...argh
Tagline is a classic.
Jesus aka Jehovah has always been known as I AM.
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Where does it say that in the Christian Bible ???
Meanwhile Jesus is God,
the Second Person of the Trinity...1 John 5:7
The Lord Jesus Christ was always the Word...
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
He created everything...
All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3
He was there in the beginning...He will be there at the end...
Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega...the beginning and the end...Revelation 1:8
Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever...Hebrews 13:8
This is petty and annoying. I come to FR to get breaking news. I don’t care if you think this is giving some poster his “just desserts” by putting his thread in the breaking new section to be ridiculed. Just be the website you are intended to be.
Pray tell.
Oh dear...
Mitt Romney is not well liked either...
In my opinion, many of them are posted with the sole intent to cause arguments. If my memory is correct, the anti-Mormon thread invasion started right about the time of this poll which said that Mormons are the most conservative religious group. The pro-Mormon threads started a little later. I believe this all started with one or two disruptor trolls who tapped into the existing anti-Romney movement with a plan to divide and conquer.
About 2005 there was a story of the of the growing Utah Muslim community and their opening of a free health care clinic in Salt Lake City. The 4th free clinic Utah Muslims have opened in the past year or so.
The Democrats in the state saw the rapidly growing Muslim presence as something that would help their party in years to come - they even went all-out to register Utah Muslims the past election in the hope they’d vote Democratic which they tend to do.
The Islamic Society of SLC and the Islamic forum of Utah are fairly upfront with their missionary plans for Utah.
What’s “annoying”? The fact that Joe Smith is a farkin Schlub; a fake-profit; a dude that got his own brother killed while he was shot by escaping from jail?
No Admin Moderator moved this thread. Read comment 27.
I have been a long time conservative, a defender of the Mormons, an activist. Locally...
I have not supported Mitt Romney because he was Not a conservative. Lies have been told about me saying that I supported him. Google me and mitt you'll see they are lies.
As to this thread being moved, and your now open hostility toward a religion whose adherents are generally conservative, well it does not bode well for this forum. Not because Mormons will break you or anything silly like that, but because “who is next” will be on people's minds and as soon as censorship is the norm on the forum, well other forums will get traffic that was here.
I know you won't care that you are intimidating people and cutting off free speech on what was a shining beacon, how sad.
Delph
Isa 43 Jehovah was the only God formed
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No this is not in the Bible...
Plus who did this “forming” ???
“before Me there was no God formed” Isaiah 43:10 is nowhere near the same as “Jehovah was the only God formed”
When someone starts messing around with the words of the Christian Bible and changing them...
like Joey Smith did...
then you wind up with a Godless cult...
like mormonism...
Your own founders taught that god gained the attributes of godhood from once being a man, which you really ought to read completely before trying to accuse me of lying about your cultish, blasphemous, heretical beliefs! ...
Was the Mormon jesus, God with us? NO! Not according to Mormonism. Mormonism teaches that the Mormon jesus gained the attributes of godhood and was not therefore God with us prior to the resurrection! Oddly, they also try to teach the opposite, too! But let's look closely at the founders' teachings through their direct quotes. Your religions founders also teach that the Mormon jesus and satan are spirit brothers in a ‘pre-existence’, making the Mormon jesus an equal with not superior to the created angels … of course prior to gaining the attributes of Mormon godhood. [Literally, according to the founders of Mormonism, the LDS jesus is our elder brother, born to Heavenly Parents in a ‘premortal life‘. According to Mormonism, Jesus, Lucifer and humans are all the same species and are brothers and sisters. (LDS Gospel Principles pp. 11, 17, 18)(D&C 93:29; PGP:Bk of Abr 3:21-22; Teachings, pp. 352-354) ]
"In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed ONE God for us ..."(Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 372)"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)
"I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret." (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)
"All of us lived in this heavenly spiritual realm before we were born with physical bodies on the earth. Christ was begotten of the Father, as were all of us, including Lucifer, who was a Son of the Morning. The title “Son of the Morning” could either signify that Lucifer was one of the earliest born of the spirits, or was illustrious, or both. The name Lucifer means “lightbearer” or “shining one.” Since both Christ and Lucifer were born of the Father, they are brothers in a spiritual sense, as all of us are brothers and sisters in that sense. (LDS teaching regarding Joseph Smith‘s, Pearl of Great Price: Book of Moses 4:1-4)
"Endowed with agency and subject to eternal laws, man began his progression and advancement in pre-existence, his ultimate goal being to attain a state of glory, honor, and exaltation like the Father of spirits. During his earth life he gains a mortal body, receives experience in earthly things, and prepares for a future eternity after the resurrection when he will continue to gain knowledge and intelligence. (D. & C. 130:18-19.) This gradually unfolding course of advancement and experience -- a course that began in a past eternity and will continue in ages future -- is frequently referred to as a course of eternal progression."
"Those who gain exaltation, having thus enjoyed the fullness of eternal progression, become like God." It should be realized that God is not progressing in knowledge, truth, virtue, wisdom, or any of the attributes of godliness. He has already gained these things in their fullness. But he is progressing in the sense that his creations increase, his dominions expand, his spirit offspring multiply, and more kingdoms are added to his domains. (Elder Bruce McConkie, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 5-10.)
Pay close attention here, Resty, for the following exposes and clarifies the duplicity in Mormonism:
"Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)
Now Resty, by what McConkie taught, that god the father in Mormonism had to earn the attributes of godhood, combined with what Smith taught regarding the Mormon jesus doing just as his father had done, do you see why I say that Mormonism teaches jesus was not god with us until after he gained that attribute through his atonement for mankind? ... I doubt you will even read this far, but there it is Resty, in all its blasphemous glory.
I could not have said it better it has shades of WW11
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